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    gota hit 200 help!

    I'll start by giving aliltte info, im 23 5'6 12% 183lbs, ive done 2 cycles before.Been lifting 7years,gained 43lbs of muscle since starting workin out.Diet is great, no point workin out if your diet is not there.cycles- 1st test-e, 2nd test-cyp and eq.
    Now thinking of doing anadrol and some form of test. Any opinions would be grately appreciated, workin out for me is my life. Its all I think about the second I get up to when I fall asleep.

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    i think its time for u to consider deca . that and some test and u should be on ur way to 200

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    start with 50mgs and if you like you can bump the drol up to 75....

    dont run longer than 4 weeks..

    weeks 1-4 drol 50-75mgs ed

    weeks 1-12 test e/c 500mgs ew

    for the ultimate bulking cycle add deca at 400mgs ew for 10 weeks.

    make sure you got solid pct and nolva/ai on hand for probs while on cycle...

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    Thanks for the quick responses. So It looks like I should run deca . Can I mix the deca and test in one syringe?

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    yea u can mix. u can mix anything in the same syringe. even water based aas

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavylifter101 View Post
    Thanks for the quick responses. So It looks like I should run deca. Can I mix the deca and test in one syringe?
    yes.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    yea u can mix. u can mix anything in the same syringe. even water based aas
    i thought one couldent mix oil with warter

    so i will be ok mixing my paki sust with zambon winnys?

    will mixing cut the pain out of the winny?

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    1-14 test enth or cyp 600mgs a week
    1-12 deca 500mgs a week
    1-5 d-bol 45mgs a day

    nothing puts mass on me better then the classic decs, test and d-bol stack

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    ok sounds good.
    so it will look like this.
    weeks 1-4 drol 50-75mgs ed
    weeks 1-12 test c 500mgs ew
    weeks 1-10 deca 400mgs ew
    nolva for pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowdenlid View Post
    i thought one couldent mix oil with warter

    so i will be ok mixing my paki sust with zambon winnys?

    will mixing cut the pain out of the winny?
    some will say u cant some will say u can. but u can. as for the pain i have no idea. i guess it should help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowdenlid View Post
    i thought one couldent mix oil with warter

    so i will be ok mixing my paki sust with zambon winnys?

    will mixing cut the pain out of the winny?
    yea bro you can mix anything. it dosnt look the prettiest when you mix winny with an oil base but its safe. as for the pain, if you mix winny with eq or another painless oil it will definatly help reduce the pain of those painful winny injections

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavylifter101 View Post
    ok sounds good.
    so it will look like this.
    weeks 1-4 drol 50-75mgs ed
    weeks 1-12 test c 500mgs ew
    weeks 1-10 deca 400mgs ew
    nolva for pct.
    cycle looks good. i would also add an AI for ur choice to ur pct, i would look into aromasin

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    how much time off before I would beable to start a cutting cycle?

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    the rule is... time on + pct = time off

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    ok sounds good. Anyway of hardening up for the summer.My cycle's guna end june23. then pct. So I got july, august

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    you could run a 16 weeker bro

    weeks 1-4 50-75mgs drol ed

    weeks 1-12 500mgs test e ew

    weeks 1-10 400mgs deca

    weeks 12-16 test p 75mgs ed

    weeks 12-16 75mgs winny ed

    with an a.i on hand and good clean diet you should be able to bulk then cut up and dry out with the prop and winny..

    get some hcg if your gonna do a 16 weeker

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    that sounds even better. would I beable to use oral winny? much easier for me to get a hold of.

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    yes oral would be ok but depot(injectable) would be better ..but if oral is what you want run it 75mgs ed and make sure you have liver sups too as you will be running 2 strong orals in this cycle (i know not together but none the less)

    hcg is a must with this imo...

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    i would advice against it. why? longer cycles and more compounds takes a toll on ur body. but its up to u, either way good luck!

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    I'll try to get injectable, How much and when to use the hcg never used it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    i would advice against it. why? longer cycles and more compounds takes a toll on ur body. but its up to u, either way good luck!
    yer your right bro,its just that some people tend to jump right on a cutting cycle after a bulker and end up running aas for 24 weeks ,seen it done many times....

    to the thread starter you always could go with a lean mass cycle....

    prop/tren (read profiles and other threads before you think about it)

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    ya i've been readin up on tren , just from what people say there are very harsh sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowdenlid View Post
    yer your right bro,its just that some people tend to jump right on a cutting cycle after a bulker and end up running aas for 24 weeks ,seen it done many times....

    to the thread starter you always could go with a lean mass cycle....

    prop/tren(read profiles and other threads before you think about it)
    also because its "only" his third cycle. test, deca and drol will put him over 200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    also because its "only" his third cycle. test, deca and drol will put him over 200.
    true..........

    you should of done a winter bulker test,deca ,drol and this cycle now could of been a lean mass/cutter but as stated test ,drol, deca will get you were you want to be.....good luck

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    I think i'll stick with the test, deca and drol. Just guna really have to watch my sodium intake when summers approaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavylifter101 View Post
    I think i'll stick with the test, deca and drol. Just guna really have to watch my sodium intake when summers approaching.

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    thanks alot for all the knowledge

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    Deca , Drol, Test, Winny And Eat Right! 4 Weeks On The Drol Jmho

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    Crap sorry aboiu the caps, opps, I'm on my phone and the caps button sticks. lol. I was not yelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowdenlid View Post
    i thought one couldent mix oil with warter

    so i will be ok mixing my paki sust with zambon winnys?

    will mixing cut the pain out of the winny?




    No it doesnt help... To me it is actually more painful.. I just shot 1ml of sust 325 and 1ml of winn 50, and my quad hurts like a biotch..

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    drol is becoming a BITCH to find....dam everyones out of it....this SUCKS! the bas i wanted for my bulking cycle...oggggg

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