Experienced user with interesting question....

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 03:13 PM

Alright I have a few cycles under my belt. I am going to hop on the tren train. But according to my way of thinking I have two ways of doing this.

I want to keep the volume of the shots down. Not the frequency, just the amount injected.

So I could run test E and tren E together and inject them every second day at .5 ml's each. So each shot would be 1 ml containing 100mg of tren e and 125 mg of test e. Following me? The reason I would do it this way is to keep the VOLUME of the shots down, I dont like the big 2cc injections. I dont shoot in the glutes because it is too hard fo me to twist and poke. So I just shoot in my quads and delts. 2 cc shot into my delt is out of the question. So for site rotation purposes and the volume of injections I would rotate my four injection sites every second day with a 1cc shot, Giving me 8 days between injecting in the same site again.

My second option is running test prop with tren ace. Shooting 50mg of tren A and 50 mg of test prop in each shot which is also a 1 ml injection. The shots would be done everyday and I would rotate the injection site the same as before with my four inject sites.

ALSO, here is the catch, I only want to run the tren for 6 weeks as this would be my first time trying it. SO, would I be running the tren E long enough for results?

I am sure there are some things that I left out.... But Here is something for all you people who want STATS :

5'9
210 lbs.
Bf 11% ( my bf is high right now because I am in the middle of a bulking cycle, my bf never goes over 12 %)
Been lifting for 11 years
27 years old

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 03:16 PM

I will continue using Test until week ten.

BG · 03-31-2008, 03:32 PM

I use tren -a with long estered test. I do my normal glute shots on Sun and thurs, then when tren misses those days I hit my delts with a small 1 ml tren shot, if the delt shots end up to close between the last, then I just hit one of my quads. Sometimes I add a little prop with the tren for a little boost.

BG · 03-31-2008, 03:35 PM

Prop/tren -a would be the best set up, but thats if your up for a short ester cycle, especisally when the amount of gear goes up because of low dose compounds.

**mkrulic** · 03-31-2008, 03:38 PM

can you find gear w/ higher concentration?

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I use tren -a with long estered test. I do my normal glute shots on Sun and thurs, then when tren misses those days I hit my delts with a small 1 ml tren shot, if the delt shots end up to close between the last, then I just hit one of my quads. Sometimes I add a little prop with the tren for a little boost.

Hmmm... How does that go for you? the long estered test mixed with a fast acting compound? The reason I didnt want to mix Tren A and Test E is because they are released into the boold at different rates.

In my way of thinking I would view the Tren A shutting down natty test before the Test E has time to kick in due to the long ester?

**mkrulic** · 03-31-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by MrTAME

Hmmm... How does that go for you? the long estered test mixed with a fast acting compound? The reason I didnt want to mix Tren A and Test E is because they are released into the boold at different rates.

In my way of thinking I would view the Tren A shutting down natty test before the Test E has time to kick in due to the long ester?

I run this a lot. usually a test e test d mix. for 6 to 8 week runs. long estered tests are idea for this type of run imo. the test will stick iin long after the tren is gone, which is what you want

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

I run this a lot. usually a test e test d mix. for 6 to 8 week runs. long estered tests are idea for this type of run imo. the test will stick iin long after the tren is gone, which is what you want

wouldnt you want to run prop with the tren a? Then concurrently run test E with the then a and prop for the last week of the tren and prop...then when you stop the tren and prop you have test E in your system? This would seem more benefitial/logical to me.

But if you guys are saying to run a long estered test with a fast acting compound because you have tried it then I will go with your experinces and consider that as a third method of trying as well.

**mkrulic** · 03-31-2008, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by MrTAME

wouldnt you want to run prop with the tren a? Then concurrently run test E with the then a and prop for the last week of the tren and prop...then when you stop the tren and prop you have test E in your system? This would seem more benefitial/logical to me.

But if you guys are saying to run a long estered test with a fast acting compound because you have tried it then I will go with your experinces and consider that as a third method of trying as well.

like I said, I like long ested tests and short estered tren in short runs. ran it many time w/ good results

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 05:13 PM

awesome, thanks....

Anyone else have other personal preferences?

BG · 03-31-2008, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by MrTAME

Hmmm... How does that go for you? the long estered test mixed with a fast acting compound? The reason I didnt want to mix Tren A and Test E is because they are released into the boold at different rates.

In my way of thinking I would view the Tren A shutting down natty test before the Test E has time to kick in due to the long ester?

It works well, I let the test get going then add tren-a for ten days, if my sides are ok (no nite sweats and insomnia) I raise it 25mgs or so. Sides get the best of me with tren. Tren-e builds up and when those blood levels peak (for me a week 2.5-3) man the sides hit me like a bat. Tren-a is managable, that what makes it a more desirable compound, you can with in a a few days change your dosage and feel the difference. No sleep makes me a mean asshole.

**MrTAME** · 03-31-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by BG

It works well, I let the test get going then add tren-a for ten days, if my sides are ok (no nite sweats and insomnia) I raise it 25mgs or so. Sides get the best of me with tren. Tren-e builds up and when those blood levels peak (for me a week 2.5-3) man the sides hit me like a bat. Tren-a is managable, that what makes it a more desirable compound, you can with in a a few days change your dosage and feel the difference. No sleep makes me a mean asshole.

Right on, I think what I will do is ru test E for three weeks then do six weeks of test e and tren a then keep running the test e for another three weeks to make a 12 weeks cycle. It sounds good to me :-)

I have been thinking too, I am going to cut down on the volume of the injects by shooting the test E with the Tren A everyday in small amounts. with the .5ml shot of tren I will shoot .3 ml of test e....this will give me 350 mg's of tren a and 525 mg's of test in my system every week. Sounds like a plan to me !

anyone else do this?