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    Anavar!!! Its overrated and Im disappointed!!! Tbol comparison!

    I have just finished an Anavar only cycle and I must say it is overrated and Im very disappointed. I used legit Anavar "Oxandroplex" @ 70mg ed for 8 solid weeks.....

    rating scale from 1-10 (1-sux 10-awesome)

    strength gain- 5
    hardness- 5
    vascularity- 7
    pumps- 5
    libido impact- 5.... slight reduced libido, still able to fully perform
    hairloss/thinning- 1.... Im shedding horribly


    compared to t-bol that I have used in past

    strength gain- 9
    hardness- 5
    vascularity- 9
    pumps- 10
    libido impact- 10..... awesome sex, increased libido, awesome.....
    hairloss/thinning- 10.... No shedding/ No hairloss

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    Good post fella, i wanna try tbol at somepoint.

    you do both of them on there own i take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    you do both of them on there own i take?
    good question! the only way to make a fair comparison. I like your post Billytk03z but I got different results. I took the exact same dosage and I got a huge increase in strength and no hair loss. I had the same rating on the rest as you. The hair loss is more genetics but for strength I give it an 8 or 9. I was very very impressed with the strength I put on and kept

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    i think we need to make a new rule that stars out the "plex" label

    its basically like naming a lab.

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    I always wondered why people call it by the stupid namee they gave there gear.

    "Bro im on testeplex and decaplex and Stanoplex!" Just say Test E Deca and winy rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    i think we need to make a new rule that stars out the "plex" label

    its basically like naming a lab.
    agreed.

    Maybe you got bad var. I havent heard of many that got good var and didnt like it.

    Plus that lab is going way downhll

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    @ Billytk03z
    Anavar Is a very good shit for two things
    1-THE STRENGHT IT GIVES
    2-THE HAIR IT TAKES

    i wanted to have fun with you ,but let's be serious about the interesting things you wrote and i chosse that Anavar is overrated cause it can't be used alone
    and the Hardness results is not good as t-bol i strongly agree with that
    and cheddaNips the poor guy said he got Oxandroplex so he didn't go anywhere but a pharmacy or am i wrong Billytk03z

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodlines View Post
    @ Billytk03z
    Anavar Is a very good shit for two things
    1-THE STRENGHT IT GIVES
    2-THE HAIR IT TAKES

    i wanted to have fun with you ,but let's be serious about the interesting things you wrote and i chosse that Anavar is overrated cause it can't be used alone
    and the Hardness results is not good as t-bol i strongly agree with that
    and cheddaNips the poor guy said he got Oxandroplex so he didn't go anywhere but a pharmacy or am i wrong Billytk03z
    you'd be incorrect yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    I have just finished an Anavar only cycle and I must say it is overrated and Im very disappointed. I used legit Anavar "Oxandroplex" @ 70mg ed for 8 solid weeks.....

    rating scale from 1-10 (1-sux 10-awesome)

    strength gain- 5
    hardness- 5
    vascularity- 7
    pumps- 5
    libido impact- 5.... slight reduced libido, still able to fully perform
    hairloss/thinning- 1.... Im shedding horribly


    compared to t-bol that I have used in past

    strength gain- 9
    hardness- 5
    vascularity- 9
    pumps- 10
    libido impact- 10..... awesome sex, increased libido, awesome.....
    hairloss/thinning- 10.... No shedding/ No hairloss
    Was the tbol your first cycle ever?

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    Yes, I ran both compounds alone (I ran tbol twice by itself).... tbol for 12 weeks and anavar for 10 weeks..... just to clarify and to be fair.... the strength gain I made from tbol was incredible, absolutely incredible..... the strength gain from Var was good, not spectacular, but very solid and noticeable strength increase....

    IMHO, for the steep price and what Anavar gives in gains, I will still have to say very overated and not at all impressed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows View Post
    Was the tbol your first cycle ever?
    good point, your first cycle ever is always going to give you much better results. Other factors could be how much time off inbetween cycles. I f you don't wait long enough the next cycle does not work as good as it should. It is so hard to compare because there are so many factors to take into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    Yes, I ran both compounds alone (I ran tbol twice by itself).... tbol for 12 weeks and anavar for 10 weeks..... just to clarify and to be fair.... the strength gain I made from tbol was incredible, absolutely incredible..... the strength gain from Var was good, not spectacular, but very solid and noticeable strength increase....

    IMHO, for the steep price and what Anavar gives in gains, I will still have to say very overated and not at all impressed....
    Post a pic of the type you had please?

    If you don't have any left,what color,what shape what miligram

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedic8ed1 View Post
    Post a pic of the type you had please?

    If you don't have any left,what color,what shape what miligram
    If you look at his first post you can tell what lab they're from. They're 10mg pills. I've seen yellow ones and orange ones.

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    Classic case of getting what was deserved!

    Because of the specific purposes for which they were designed, even an independent comparison is unfair. Var was meant for medicinal usage, but is also a great compliment to a bb’er cycle. Tbol was meant to be a stand-alone, performance enhancing compound, and should therefore always outshine Var on sheer autonomy.

    It’s a case of choosing the right tool for the job. Pliers can be used here, but the proper wrench would be far more applicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows View Post
    If you look at his first post you can tell what lab they're from. They're 10mg pills. I've seen yellow ones and orange ones.
    Thanks I had the pharmacy grade 10's that are some ridicolous $ amount they were really good.Now I have blue square 10's with a split in the middle and say BP on the other side so I was just trying to see if mine were going to be shitty to.But I hear all ugl var is under dosed any way.

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    im pretty sure most aanyone thats done both these coulda told ya var would be dissapointing.

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    IMO the "plex" anavar is NO GOOD! Im 100% sure if you had used
    legit anavar and by legit i mean no underdosed shit, at 70mgs a day you whould have gotten better resualts. Anavar is no mass builder but
    It does lean you out and very good strenght gains.

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    true, legit var is VERY good IMO..... of course -we all react diff to certain compounds... I love var.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWolf View Post
    IMO the "plex" anavar is NO GOOD! Im 100% sure if you had used
    legit anavar and by legit i mean no underdosed shit, at 70mgs a day you whould have gotten better resualts. Anavar is no mass builder but
    It does lean you out and very good strenght gains.
    exactly.

    and OxandroPLEX. is part of the Plex brand. not a Pharm grade product.

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    Can't find T-bol.....under the profiles....is it the same as D-Bol????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbanzo Dude View Post
    Can't find T-bol.....under the profiles....is it the same as D-Bol????
    AKA, Turinabol

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    exactly.

    and OxandroPLEX. is part of the Plex brand. not a Pharm grade product.
    Correct. I'm always surprised when people think an UGL is pharm grade just because they have a website.

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    I am confused. What is better for building lean muscle without shutting down and hairloss. Anavar or tbol?

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    What was your PCT for the TBol?
    Acne?
    Dosage?

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    i started my var at 40 mgs a day and each day w.out seeing any results upped it by ten mgs to 70...ive completed week 3 w/ zero gains in any categorie.been awhile since i got burnt , good thing it was only for 200$ ...pm me if u wanna know more about these
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    Personally, I loved anavar . I threw it in during weeks 9-12 in a test e/eq cycle and it was just the kick my cycle needed. I had kind of leveled off in terms of strength gains and def size gains(yes I realize eq isn't the most potent compound around) but my strength with the anavar became ape-like.

    I leaned out even more with the anavar even though my diet was super clean throughout the entire cycle and didn't suffer any other ill effects like loss of libido or hairloss.

    I will definitely use anavar in the future and maybe even as a kickstarter instead dbol or a multiester test like Sust.

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    you were expecting awesome strength gains from anavar ? anyways, that lab is garbage, at least there tabs are. get some better shit

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    I'm on 60mg var and my strength gain is amazing with zero sides. I have no experience with t-bol though.

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    has to be a problem with the var or your diet. I've used var twice before at 75 & 100 mg for 5-6 weeks (cant rememebr now) and it was the BEST thing ever! also used tbol at 60mg, it was ok. Also used to lower version of tbol - those prohormone stuff (promag, halodrol). those were ok too.

    but var gave me so much strength and i could go on for 2 hrs int he gym non stop without feeling tired!

    Best of all - NO hair loss when i shed like a dog anyways!

    I would say it could have been a bad batch of vars maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adude006 View Post
    has to be a problem with the var or your diet. I've used var twice before at 75 & 100 mg for 5-6 weeks (cant rememebr now) and it was the BEST thing ever! also used tbol at 60mg, it was ok. Also used to lower version of tbol - those prohormone stuff (promag, halodrol). those were ok too.

    but var gave me so much strength and i could go on for 2 hrs int he gym non stop without feeling tired!

    Best of all - NO hair loss when i shed like a dog anyways!

    I would say it could have been a bad batch of vars maybe?
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adude006 View Post
    has to be a problem with the var or your diet. I've used var twice before at 75 & 100 mg for 5-6 weeks (cant rememebr now) and it was the BEST thing ever! also used tbol at 60mg, it was ok. Also used to lower version of tbol - those prohormone stuff (promag, halodrol). those were ok too.

    but var gave me so much strength and i could go on for 2 hrs int he gym non stop without feeling tired!

    Best of all - NO hair loss when i shed like a dog anyways!

    I would say it could have been a bad batch of vars maybe?

    may well have been a bad batch of Var..... who knows at this point... I will say that tbol gave me incredible strength, awesome pumps, increased energy/vascularity and absolutely no hair loss or thinning what so ever... Im still shedding like a dog from this Var.... its incredible how much hair I can constantly pull out, im suprised im not bald yet from all the hair im pulling out!!! but minds made up will only run tbol in the future.. it gave me all the size, strength and gains i needed or wanted with zero sides....

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    Get some nizoral asap. itll help some with that shedding. I dont know how long the DHT will stay in your scalp.

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    You got bad var.

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