How Can Steroids Be Worth It! Life is so short be healthy

[DEATH4u]

Please tell me how it is worth it. I am doing a college projectI AM A MED STUDENT, so i thougt i would research your sight. Or as you call them forums. From what I gather alot of users Have gyno the start of men developing womens breast. you have major loss of hair, you have random pains in major organs of the body "liver" "balls' "kidneys' pancreas ect.. you have JUMPED STARTED YOUR 'MBP" MALE PATTERN BALDNESS loss of your sex drive LIBIDO. And when you do have a sex drive you need to take viagra to get it up. you have acne all over you body as well as a yellow jaundice tint to your skin. stretch marks for life, most have you have little chance of having children if you have done any major steroids . major mood swings which effect your every day life. And you guy's say your self as soon as you get off your cycle you loose most of you gains but keep 100% of your side effects. not even to bring up all the major diseases that steroids can bring out.

so now the guy whofrom the begining goes to the gym just to be healthy, gets into steroids becasue it is to hard to get the gains he wants. and Ends up being the Big guy that is impotent balding not healthy moody covered in zits and stretch marks. stops working out for a fiew months and is back to almost square one.

please tell me how it is worth it. to gain in so fiew place and loose in so many others. i am not knocking you guys an only going by what you guys have wrote in you forums. no books or doctors advice just reflecting on thousands of post in your forums and posts.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU IN THE FUTURE AND PLEASE JUST BE HEALTHY I AM A MED STUDENT. AND I AM GOING TO SPEND MY LIFE TRYING TO HELP THE SICK. JUST A WORD OF ADVICE. LIVE HEALTHY TRAIN HARD AND BE HAPPY. ALL POST MY PICS I TAKE MVP WHEY PROTEIN AND TRAIN 4 TIMES A WEEK AND RUN 4 TIMES A WEEK AND FROM THE 5'9 210 SOLID NO FAT 18 inch ams. IT'S NOT EASY BUT THINGS WORTH HAVING ARE WORTH WAITING FOR.

GOODLUCK

[landshark]

Med student, huh? I'd invest in a spell check before you waste any more of dad's money. I'm calling bullshit. Have a nice day.

[desert rat]

bump....

[Freakymuscle4u]

More like 15 yr old who took roids at young age and fucked up himself, now he's complaining


Jay

[Lift Chief]

"Please tell me how it is worth it. I am doing a college projectI AM A MED STUDENT, so i thougt i would research your sight. Or as you call them forums. From what I gather alot of users Have gyno the start of men developing womens breast. you have major loss of hair, you have random pains in major organs of the body "liver" "balls' "kidneys' pancreas ect.. you have JUMPED STARTED YOUR 'MBP" MALE PATTERN BALDNESS loss of your sex drive LIBIDO. And when you do have a sex drive you need to take viagra to get it up. you have acne all over you body as well as a yellow GONDIS tint to your skin. stretch marks for life, most have you have little chance of having children if you have done any major steroids . major mood swings which effect your every day life. And you guy's say your self as soon as you get off your cycle you loose most of you gains but keep 100% of your side effects. not even to bring up all the major diseases that steroids can bring out."



---If you had read half as many posts on these types of forums as you claim you'd realize the vast majority of people know all about these side effects and also how to prevent them... and most of these side effects only occur in users who take extremely high doses of steroids for extended periods of time... if you are a "med student" as you claim i hope for future reference you research what it is that you are talking about so you don't look completely ignorant.
--thanks

[latman49]

If you really were a med student, you would be fully aware of the medicinal usage of AAS and the benifits that can be gained from them. AAS is just like any other drug that may be prescribed by a doctor, if used correctly, taking all precautions, the risks can be minimal. You should know that many of the side effects you listed are a preventable and/or reversible.

By the way, what the hell is "Gondis"? I think you mean jaundice. If you are a med student, then next week the President is going to make me the Secretary of Pussy.

[Billy Boy]

You have a point steroids do come with many side effects as does the joy of everyday living.Those that choose to do steroids carefully way up the odds of doing them.As a med student you sound as if you have come across studies indicating the gross number of patients who have steroids related problems.I would be very interested in seeing this as I have never found any recorded results.

Good progress can be made naturally but looking at the top pro's could you honestly tell me they would achieve what they have today without steroids?Of course not for many users they do them for competitions because that is the way the sport has progressed and not just in bodybuilding they are used for contact sports,track events and a whole host of others.

Digressing from the topic do you warn all smokers of their fate?Afterall the health services spend millions each year treating patients of self abuse and who can die from cancer,heart diesease,you name it and they can get it.Do we preach to drinkers that they are slowly eradicating their livers ability to remove toxins from their body when they drink heavily.Indeed man is destroying the ozone layer and there are more cases of skin cancer every year resulting in death.

Steroids are way down on the list of hostile drugs they are dangerous if abused and the side effects can be readily inhibited.I ask you one question could you tell me of any type of drug user who is more informed , more in touch with their own body and its needs then the bodybuilder?

[Full Intensity]

First off any med student would have enough brains not to make the spelling errors of a 15 year old. Second as mentioned above any MED student would know the benefits and medical advantages of AAS. And third if this wasn't a f@cking bullshit thread trying to piss us off you would have replied by now trying to defend yourself.

[DevilDog]

This is obviously flame bait. Med student? Sounds more like media propeganda.

[dansteelman]

STFU! If you know so much about gear, why are you asking us? We use several counter meds to help against sides and to prevent them. As far as health, I'm the healthiest I have ever been and I get more respect from people! You want to talk about drugs that destroy your body, why don't you go register on a recreational drug forum and ask why they choose to DESTROY their bodys with cocaine, weed, and meth. Bodybuilding isn't just about steroids ! Its about discipline, good eating habits, and hard work! Something you will never know a damn thing about!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DEATH4u]

BILLY BOY

THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY ONE TO GIVE ME A NORMAL ANSWER. MOST PEOPLE GET MAD WHEN THEY FEEL AS IF SOME ONE IS POINTING THE FINGER AT THEM. I AM A MED STUDENT. I AM FRENCH SO MY ENGLISH SPELLING IS NOT SO GREAT, I AM SORRY FOR THAT, AND I AM SORRY THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE TO STUPID TO GIVE ME A FAIR REPLY AS YOU DID.

[DEATH4u]

DEVIL DOG

IF YOU LOOK SO GOOD WHY DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF ARNOLD RATHER THEN OF YOU. WHY? I TELL YOU, I WILL MAKE YOU A DEAL INFRONT OF EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM. ALL POST MY PICS AND YOU POST YOURS AND WE WILL SEE WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT WORKING OUT, YOU SOME WANA BE ARNOLD LOSER WHO THINKS GETTING BIG RAMS WILL THAT FACE OF YOURS, DO YOU TAKE ME OFFER

[Warrior]

What's up doc - or as you call yourself, "MED Student."

Do you know the application of anabolic and androgenic aids? Do you realize they are merely supplements for a healthy advanced trainee? Not intended for immature or beginning athletes - those are just drug abusers who get many sides and never retain their gains.

AAS is used in conjunction with informed stacking cycles, in addition to proper diet, nutrition and bodybuilding knowledge are great additions to an advananced athletes program when used responsibly.

Check the copyright date of your text books and find a more up to date school.

Do you think driving a race car over 300 mph is safe? Or rock climbing in canyons that one slip can crush you like my lunchtime tuna fish sandwich?

Most of us use AAS as simple aids to our big time goals. Put down your Tae Bo tapes and 1978 Richard Simmon's Guide to an Effective Workout and bust out some big boy books. We could use as many Med students, nurses and doctors as we can around here with knowledge in physiology and androgenic/anabolic steroids .

[ARABIAN_FREAK]

I agree with billy boy .
When u chose to do drugs you should be aware of what side effects you can encounter, after all its you who will take full responsibility for your body and not anyone else !
Actually steroids arent that bad , the media is giving them a bad name for many reasons ! But if u stick around and research you will find out that most side effects can be prevented .
So plz before taking someone elses opinion on why drugs are bad do some research or ask experienced users and listen to what they will tell you!
good luck on your project.

[Billy Boy]

This thread is being watched lets not turn it into a flame thread guys.

[KeyMastur]

Hey Death, people post Arnold pic's b/c that's their idol in body building. An Avatar is supposed to represent some personal meaning to a person.

As for your retort against juice - think before you speak. You can go ahead and post your your pics. Now I'm not the biggest and most ripped up dude on this board, not even close, so my pics will not compare to many, but I do come here to share what I know and learn new stuff every day. I will post my blood work results - you will see that I am very healthy, not just average. My liver works fine. I have no acne. I have hair - thinning, but just hereditary. My nuts are fine (just ask my girlfriend). I have no bitch tits, nor stretch marks.

Do not come on a board about gear and it's use in body building and begin to say "don't juice - you'll die". If you truly are a med student, I suggest you keep going to school and learn some more about the stuff before you start hating on it. There are proper medicines nowadays to counteract most, if not all, the side effects of steroids .

This forum is mainly about body building anyways, and those who seek advice on how to change their physique. Those who chose to do juice are aware of the risks involved, and most take the necessary precautions before jumping into anything.

We are not here to bash one another and argue over who's bigger, who's smarter, who's get's more ass - who gives a shit ? We're here to help those who do decide to get involved in the wonderful world of gear, and lead them in the right direction.

[DevilDog]

Originally posted by DEATH4u
DEVIL DOG

IF YOU LOOK SO GOOD WHY DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF ARNOLD RATHER THEN OF YOU. WHY? I TELL YOU, I WILL MAKE YOU A DEAL INFRONT OF EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM. ALL POST MY PICS AND YOU POST YOURS AND WE WILL SEE WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT WORKING OUT, YOU SOME WANA BE ARNOLD LOSER WHO THINKS GETTING BIG RAMS WILL THAT FACE OF YOURS, DO YOU TAKE ME OFFER

Sounds great bro, Ill do even better. Ill post my pic, my address, date of birth, my social, and all my sources and their info. After all, I doubt the feds watch these boards.

I never claimed to look great, I merely aspire to look like my avatar.

If you really are a med student, which I doubt, you would frame your statements in a more eloquent way. The fallacy of attacking credibility (i.e. calling someone stupid and loser), is a basic concept learned in your first year of college/university.

I, unlike you, am a graduate student. Although the bro's on this board have forgotten more about steroids than most doctors will ever know, you would be unable to use the board as a source for your research.

Last, if your intent was to solicit answers, for your so called "research", you would have found a much better way of asking. Surely, I med student has the writing ability, and prowess to come up with eloquent questions.

[DEATH4u]

I AM 25 TRAINING SINCE I AM 16. I EAT ONLY 100% NATURAL PRODUCTS NOI FAT NO JUNK FOOD. IT'S DEATH FOR YOUR BODY. KEEP STRONG WORK HARD . BLACKED OUT MY GIRL FRIEND.

[DEATH4u]

I CAN BE VERY eloquent, NUMBER I WOULD NOT TAKE THE TIME. AND 2ND I AM FRENCH, IF YOU WOULD ME TO I WILL WRITE IN FRENCH FROM NOW ON. I SPEAK VERY LITTLE ENGLISH. I AM FROM THE SOUTH OF FRANCE

[KeyMastur]

let's see another one...surely you have more to prove who you assume to be.....

[DEATH4u]

Full Intensity

YOUR BACK IS A JOKE. IF THAT THE RESULTS YOU GOT FROM YOU CYCLE I WOULD BE SHORE NOT TO SHOW ANY PICS YOU BACK IS LACKING ALL KINDS. YOUR SMALL AND WEAK AND PLEASE DON'T BE MAD THAT I AM IN MED SCHOOL. AND TO THE LAST COMMENT DAD HAS A TON OF MONEY,, NOT EVEN STARTED WASTING IT.

[Billy Boy]

OK thread closed until further notice this is not going to turn into a pissing match.