New To The Forum, New To Steriods. . .Help

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 12:15 PM

i am new to these forum and i want to try steriod for the first time in my life for one cycle and see if i like it or what it could do for me.

dont laugh but here are my stats

6-1
190lbs
age:26

Pictures:

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:24 PM

Well at least you have a lean base to start working with... but i think diet will be the first port of call...

You have potential to gain more through changing ya diet before starting aas.

See aas as your 'ace card', which should only be played once other things like ya diet and workout regime are already spot on...

Head over the diet forum n post ya diet for critique. Also check out the diet stickies in that section and see where you can make improvements.

**smokethedays** · 04-09-2008, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

Well at least you have a lean base to start working with... but i think diet will be the first port of call...

You have potential to gain more through changing ya diet before starting aas.

See aas as your 'ace card', which should only be played once other things like ya diet and workout regime are already spot on...

Head over the diet forum n post ya diet for critique. Also check out the diet stickies in that section and see where you can make improvements.

Ditto that but just to give u a piece of info to help ur research, if u got to start AAS then do a plain light cycle, Test E or Cyp for 16 weeks at 400mg/week. and a good PCT 2 weeks after the last shot.

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

Ditto that but just to give u a piece of info to help ur research, if u got to start AAS then do a plain light cycle, Test E or Cyp for 16 weeks at 400mg/week. and a good PCT 2 weeks after the last shot.

Good call, as while adjusting ya diet plan and putting that into action research is key.

Id say more 12 weeks for a first cycle, but then that's just my opinion.

Am a firm believer a cycle should be run as long as ya getting worthwhile gains, as long as the cycle isn't over the top.

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:43 PM

p.s.

Welcome!

**smokethedays** · 04-09-2008, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

p.s.

Welcome!

was that for me Shifty?

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

Well at least you have a lean base to start working with... but i think diet will be the first port of call...

You have potential to gain more through changing ya diet before starting aas.

See aas as your 'ace card', which should only be played once other things like ya diet and workout regime are already spot on...

Head over the diet forum n post ya diet for critique. Also check out the diet stickies in that section and see where you can make improvements.

i have been on BB.com forum for a long time and have a clean bulk diet that i stick to daily. . . .does my diet have to change in prepration for steriods ?

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

was that for me Shifty?

thats was for me, new member

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

was that for me Shifty?

nah for the orginal poster as it was his first post...

This ones for you...

Evening smoke!!!

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Living_Legend

i have been on BB.com forum for a long time and have a clean bulk diet that i stick to daily. . . .does my diet have to change in prepration for steriods?

Well can never hurt to be running everything at ya full potential...

If ya diet is normally very good and very strict then thats a good start..

Adjust ya calories depending on what ya goal is for the cycle.

Remember its 40% Training, 40% Diet, 20% AAS.

Check out threads by perfectbeast and AandF69 in the diet forum, there diet advice is 2nd to none.

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

Ditto that but just to give u a piece of info to help ur research, if u got to start AAS then do a plain light cycle, Test E or Cyp for 16 weeks at 400mg/week. and a good PCT 2 weeks after the last shot.

is this cycle made for a first timer and have less gains. . . . I would hate to take something and not see gains that have people questioning if I am juicing or not (I dont want attention, I am just saying I want noticeable results)

**smokethedays** · 04-09-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Living_Legend

is this cycle made for a first timer and have less gains. . . . I would hate to take something and not see gains that have people questioning if I am juicing or not (I dont want attention, I am just saying I want noticeable results)

that cycle with a CORRECT diet and amount of calories would yieldon average for a 1st timer 8-12 lbs of muscle gain after the 16 weeks.

**smokethedays** · 04-09-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

nah for the orginal poster as it was his first post...

This ones for you...

Evening smoke!!!

Lol, thx bro.

**shifty_git** · 04-09-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Living_Legend

is this cycle made for a first timer and have less gains. . . . I would hate to take something and not see gains that have people questioning if I am juicing or not (I dont want attention, I am just saying I want noticeable results)

Think of it this way... why do steroids have a bad reputation?

Simple..

Because they do give great gains...

But people who are 2 young to use them, or people who are 2 irresponsible use them hear and see this, so decide to jump on them.

If you do ya research and understand how to use them responsibly and understand how the actual compounds work within your body, and what ancillaries to use to minimise sides and dangers, you will have great results.

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

Think of it this way... why do steroids have a bad reputation?

Simple..

Because they do give great gains...

But people who are 2 young to use them, or people who are 2 irresponsible use them hear and see this, so decide to jump on them.

If you do ya research and understand how to use them responsibly and understand how the actual compounds work within your body, and what ancillaries to use to minimise sides and dangers, you will have great results.

these are the responces i wanted, to be honest i dont know if i am even going to do them, i just wanted to get a jump start on where to look and learn. . . this is day one of learning, i would not do them until August anyway after baseball season were i play. . . off season pump i guess you can say. . .

what throughs me off though is i feel like you could gain 8 lbs with creatine in 16 weeks, why are steriods better?

**smokethedays** · 04-09-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Living_Legend

these are the responces i wanted, to be honest i dont know if i am even going to do them, i just wanted to get a jump start on where to look and learn. . . this is day one of learning, i would not do them until August anyway after baseball season were i play. . . off season pump i guess you can say. . .

what throughs me off though is i feel like you could gain 8 lbs with creatine in 16 weeks, why are steriods better?

8lbs of actual muscle with creatine in 16 weeks?

stick to creatine, simply AAS isn't for u if u THINK that creatine would give u 8lbs of REAL muscle.

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

8lbs of actual muscle with creatine in 16 weeks?

stick to creatine, simply AAS isn't for u if u THINK that creatine would give u 8lbs of REAL muscle.

i was exadrating, i know creatine is water weight and would not do that i was just trying to get feed back why people think AAS is really worth it, just feel like 8lbs in 4 months is not that much

**Living_Legend** · 04-09-2008, 01:14 PM

i know its not the same but the strange thing with me is that i took Halotest-25 and did not really get results but with the PCT i feel like i got the most gains. . .