1st Injectable Cycle

**XLCanadian** · 04-21-2008, 12:40 PM

So I finally made the leap to the darts. 1st time running test as well.

Stats. 26 yrs old. 202 lbs. 6'1". 14% Bodyfat.

12 week cycle.

Test Cyp. 125mg every 3 days
Winstrol 50mg EOD

Will adjust levels later in cycle. Will likely do 50 mgs of Winstrol ED for last 4 weeks.

HCG for PCT.

Good gear and was advised by a couple of pros that this should do me fine as a first cycle. But I may need to up the Test to 150mg every 3 days after 4 - 6 weeks.

What do you guys think?

**smokethedays** · 04-21-2008, 12:41 PM

why would u start with low test dose then increase?

**smokethedays** · 04-21-2008, 12:42 PM

u r gonna run winny for the 12 weeks?!

**XLCanadian** · 04-21-2008, 12:46 PM

yeah. Get better results with Winny long term. thats why I'll double it up near the end. Test dose is low cuz I've never run it before.

**smokethedays** · 04-21-2008, 12:47 PM

on word for u my man:
RESEARCH

**Outta Kontrol** · 04-21-2008, 12:48 PM

what did you run in your other cycles (orals) and what are the goals for this one. Cutting for summer I am assuming. 250 mgs a week of test isnt low IMO especially for first time.

**XLCanadian** · 04-21-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

on word for u my man:
RESEARCH

Did the research. Now relying on the advice of an IFBB pro and a mutual friend.

I did all my research like six months ago but didn't have the dough to make it happen.

**XLCanadian** · 04-21-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Outta Kontrol

what did you run in your other cycles (orals) and what are the goals for this one. Cutting for summer I am assuming. 250 mgs a week of test isnt low IMO especially for first time.

Ran 50 - 75mgs oral winny with clen last year for 10 weeks.. Ripped up and gained 8lbs.

Ran some of that 1AD BS like 4 years ago. Put on like 10lbs.

Running this cuz I just kicked the ex to the curb and need to get last years form back. Had a lot of stress since last summer and trying to correct for the losses caused by it.

**Outta Kontrol** · 04-21-2008, 03:09 PM

I am not sure what is meant by your goals... seems more like a motivation than a goal. But anyway, looks like the only cycle you have ran was winny, as clen is not considered AAS. I have not used winny at all but I have a few friends who have. They all have gotten good results from it but they dont run it for more than 6 weeks... maybe 8 weeks at the most. So again back to my question:
What is your goal? Do you want to cut and rip? do you want to gain 15 pounds of mass? Do you want to add 25 pounds to your bench?

The best advice I can give you is gonna be what most of the guys on here would tell you. Run a test only cycle and go from there. I think this will give you the results youare looking for (regardless of what they really are) since test can be use in either a cutting or bulking cycle. Either way be strick on your diet and the rest will fall in place.

OK

Originally Posted by XLCanadian

Ran 50 - 75mgs oral winny with clen last year for 10 weeks.. Ripped up and gained 8lbs.

Ran some of that 1AD BS like 4 years ago. Put on like 10lbs.

Running this cuz I just kicked the ex to the curb and need to get last years form back. Had a lot of stress since last summer and trying to correct for the losses caused by it.

**Kansas City Boy** · 04-21-2008, 03:14 PM

250mg a week for test is low/med. My first cycle i started out with 250 mg a week of test and saw decent gains with no side effects besides balls shrinkin up a lil bit. You could run more test. I would recommend it. I added more test mg weekly because I was not seeing the results I wanted. Keep that in mind

**TheJuicer** · 04-21-2008, 03:51 PM

I'd up it to 150mg. Never tried Winny...the hair lose scaried me

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-21-2008, 03:56 PM

HCG for PCT is not good enough

**inky-e** · 04-21-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by XLCanadian

So I finally made the leap to the darts. 1st time running test as well.

Stats. 26 yrs old. 202 lbs. 6'1". 14% Bodyfat.

12 week cycle.

Test Cyp. 125mg every 3 days
Winstrol 50mg EOD

Will adjust levels later in cycle. Will likely do 50 mgs of Winstrol ED for last 4 weeks.

HCG for PCT.

Good gear and was advised by a couple of pros that this should do me fine as a first cycle. But I may need to up the Test to 150mg every 3 days after 4 - 6 weeks.

What do you guys think?

You need more than just hcg for pct

**Phate** · 04-21-2008, 04:43 PM

you need to research a bit more, not being mean just saying, but i'll do you one better then just tell you, i'll give you what you need

Phneedo's PCT Sticky

Pheedno's PCT

Some Stickys on Diet to maximize gains

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

Here's one on cycles from beginner to advanced and how to run them

Cycles for the Newbie

and finally one on gyno and how to reverse it

All you need to know about GYNO.

Start with those and you'll be well on your way

**XLCanadian** · 04-24-2008, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by phate186

you need to research a bit more, not being mean just saying, but i'll do you one better then just tell you, i'll give you what you need

Phneedo's PCT Sticky

Pheedno's PCT

Some Stickys on Diet to maximize gains

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

Here's one on cycles from beginner to advanced and how to run them

Cycles for the Newbie

and finally one on gyno and how to reverse it

All you need to know about GYNO.

Start with those and you'll be well on your way

Thanks for the info.

**XLCanadian** · 04-24-2008, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Outta Kontrol

I am not sure what is meant by your goals... seems more like a motivation than a goal. But anyway, looks like the only cycle you have ran was winny, as clen is not considered AAS. I have not used winny at all but I have a few friends who have. They all have gotten good results from it but they dont run it for more than 6 weeks... maybe 8 weeks at the most. So again back to my question:
What is your goal? Do you want to cut and rip? do you want to gain 15 pounds of mass? Do you want to add 25 pounds to your bench?

The best advice I can give you is gonna be what most of the guys on here would tell you. Run a test only cycle and go from there. I think this will give you the results youare looking for (regardless of what they really are) since test can be use in either a cutting or bulking cycle. Either way be strick on your diet and the rest will fall in place.

OK

Looking to drop bodyfat to about 8% and keep my size up. Should be easy with what i'm running. And diet is already on point as I was already dieting before I decided to run the cycle.