Mixing Clenbuterol CYTOMEL & WINSTROL in one cycle

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 07:56 PM

I'm jumping on a fast fat loss cycle with Clenbuterol CYTOMEL & WINSTROL (ALL ORAL) just a little courious as to what everyone thinks about this.... It's going to be a 9 week cycle with Clen (80mcg/100/120) for the first 3 then Cytomel\Win (50mcg/50/100/100) (15mg/15/20/20/20/20/20/20) for the in between weeks and then the last 3 clen again. After this cycle I'm going to be taking TRENBOLONE ENANTHATE 20ML for a every other day injection of 100mg after that I'm taking clomid to come off and keep some gains. Just wanted some input on what is good or bad about these cycles...

**NATE0406** · 04-27-2008, 08:17 PM

what are your stats?? what is your cycle exp?

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:21 PM

nothing crazy via cycles but i been working out for a little less than a year and i have a good amount of muscle but i still have the flab and nothing is working. I'm 5'10 215lbs so i figured this would set me in the right direction..

**NATE0406** · 04-27-2008, 08:23 PM

how old are you??? there are so many things wrong with both your cycles that i dont know where to start.

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by FrankieJJ23

nothing crazy via cycles but i been working out for a little less than a year and i have a good amount of muscle but i still have the flab and nothing is working. I'm 5'10 215lbs so i figured this would set me in the right direction..

i'll make this a little easier
age
bf%
cycle history (tell us what you've ran and how you ran it)
what's your diet like

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

how old are you??? there are so many things wrong with both your cycles that i dont know where to start.

^^^exactly what i was thinking, you want to tackle the clen /t3/winny probs and i'll tell him why he's not ready for AS and why not to run tren e by itself or the other way around, lol

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:26 PM

YOU NEED TEST WHENEVER RUNNING WINNI OR TREN !..unless you dont value your penis! and after tren u need a much more aggresive PCT, plus test and tren have amazing synergy together! ...and what is your bf? what is your diet like?

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:28 PM

Age: 22
BF: Not the slightest idea, can tell you its a good amount though
Cycles: Never
Diet: High protien, low carb, fish,chicken, mainly anything non fatty and

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:28 PM

drop the winni in your 2nd cycle..pointless..plus that is going to be to hard on your liver! and tren E, a long estered tren..no need of EOD INJECTS...you need alot more research before you being to throw chemicals into your system that you are clueless on!

**NATE0406** · 04-27-2008, 08:29 PM

so let me get this straight.
clen week 1-3
t3/winstrol weeks 3-6
clen weeks 6-9

then you want to run
tren enth weeks 1-5 100mgs eod

bro if this is the case then you really have alot of research to do. those 2 cycles dont even make sense.

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:31 PM

Cycle :
- Then the tren was to bulk up after cutting down all the fat..

**NATE0406** · 04-27-2008, 08:34 PM

bro you cant post that site. you need to edit that site out. and let me tell you that all of those cycles are crap that they have on there site.

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:35 PM

WTF!....man u need 2 research..your going to fuuck yourself up so badly, winstrol and tren are nothing to play around with...you going to be the assshole who does a cycle and says all the side effects and how badly they are and how people shouldnt do them etc. and then give steroids a bad name! and screw us all over!...you need 2 research alot buddy, not to be an asss...but its the best intrest of you!..i just dont understand some people who wanna put shitt into there bodies and have no clue what it is or what it is doing!

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

drop the winni in your 2nd cycle..pointless..plus that is going to be to hard on your liver! and tren E, a long estered tren..no need of EOD INJECTS...you need alot more research before you being to throw chemicals into your system that you are clueless on!

how bout giving him an idea what to research instead of just flamethrowing him, lol

here's some stuff to read to get you started

how to know your ready for AS
Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

basics of steroids
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...78#post3167378

diet (i guarentee your diet isn't as good as you think it is and these will show you why)

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction

PCT (Besides diet, this is one of the most important things to have down, without it your cycle is a waste)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=PHEENDO
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

clen faq
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

clen/t3 thread
Clen/T3 Cutting Cycle...

YOU BETTER READ THESE before you post cause it took me FOREVER to get them together for you, have fun researching

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:36 PM

Well seriously anyone i've spoke to hasn't really had an idea about any cycles they just juice a little. But the tren was after all of the clen \t3\win after a little break like i said to bulk up after cutting down i wasn't going to put tren in play during the clen cycle that i know is moronic

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:38 PM

thanks im going to check em out now, its just that i already made the order and now i don't wanna cancel on this guy and then get jerked on my next one..

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by FrankieJJ23

thanks im going to check em out now, its just that i already made the order and now i don't wanna cancel on this guy and then get jerked on my next one..

then don't cancel on the order, stored in a dark room temp. place AS last for years and the clen /t3 you could research and be using in a few weeks, your all good, take the time to research so you don't hurt yourself

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:42 PM

keep all the stuff for later cycles....just make sure whenever you do WINNI OR TREN OR DECA ...or how bout this ANY CYCLE OF AAS HAS TO HAVE TESTOSTERONE !

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

keep all the stuff for later cycles....just make sure whenever you do WINNI OR TREN OR DECA ...or how bout this ANY CYCLE OF AAS HAS TO HAVE TESTOSTERONE!

Lol, you like those caps don't you, jp bulldog

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:48 PM

i do b/c its stresses stuff...in the world of AAS, shyt needs to be stressed b/c people get to wrapped up in thinking tthis shit is a game, and they will get results no matter what!.not the case... so i use caps to get attention... phate it seems like me and you reply to so many threads.. but you know ur stuff lol

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

i do b/c its stresses stuff...in the world of AAS, shyt needs to be stressed b/c people get to wrapped up in thinking tthis shit is a game, and they will get results no matter what!.not the case... so i use caps to get attention... phate it seems like me and you reply to so many threads.. but you know ur stuff lol

no shvt^^^, when i got on today you have replied to 8 threads on the top of the page and i was like, wtf, he's everywhere, thanks for the compliment, it's all because of this site and special thanks to mods like BIG, he's helped me a TON

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 08:53 PM

def.. ive been researching drugs now over a year ..and without this site id be clueless...i prob woodnt even be using now if i didnt have this site!..ANY1 that doesnt take advantage of the info on this site is insane, and do not use AAS!

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

def.. ive been researching drugs now over a year ..and without this site id be clueless...i prob woodnt even be using now if i didnt have this site!..ANY1 that doesnt take advantage of the info on this site is insane, and do not use AAS!

AGREED^^^

**FrankieJJ23** · 04-27-2008, 08:58 PM

ok i been looking in at ALL the information given at hand but on the same note no one really gives like a set cycle as to what should be taken together like i really thought clen \t3\win would be a good cycle to cut bf and lose weight but i guess i was wrong and i appericate everyone even though bulldog gets a lil vulgar lol but i dunoo im looking for something to set me straight..

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 09:07 PM

this would help:
Deitrol 500mg/w
Cardiotropin 4 iu/ed
-ipodex .5mg/d
Weightadrol 500mg/w
PCT OTC FAT BURNER! lol

but really.. clen and t3 would be good, try that 1st and after that do
Test propinate 100 mg/eod
Tren A 100 mg/eod
Winstrol 50 mg/d
PCT
Nolvadex 40 mg/d down to 20 mg/d
Clomid 150 mg/d
HCG

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 09:08 PM

personally this is what i think you should do even though you probably won't like it
first, post your diet in the diet forum and get it critiqued cause that's 80% of bodybuilding no matter if your on cycle or off

next, read up on training routines and get a good regimen going with diet and exercise and do that for at least 6 months, though a year would be better, to get the hang of it

then come back and we'll help you get together a test/clen /t3 cycle and diet that will help you cut

if you want to run clen in a couple weeks you can but not clen/t3 as that can cause you to lose muscle via catabolism, that's why you run it with test to prevent that

remember, bodybuilding and AS are LIFETIME CHOICES, which means PATIENCE IS THE KEY

LOL, i've got bulldog syndrome with the caps thing

**Bulldog1115** · 04-27-2008, 09:10 PM

that sounds better than my idea!

**Phate** · 04-27-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

that sounds better than my idea!

your idea's close to mine, i'm just more of a wait and learn before jumping in type of person, and since i'm 18 and not going to cycle till i'm 23-24 i have alot of waiting and learning to do yet so i'm getting a lesson in patience, lol