Would this cycle help me get cut up??

**Newbie2008** · 04-28-2008, 12:54 AM

Hey, I have been reading as many post as I can trying to come up with a good cycle, here is what I have come up with. Any feedback? Good? Bad? Back to the drawing board?

Stats: 24 yrs old/220 pounds/ 14 % BF/ 6 feet tall. I have done 3 cycles before which included Sus/Deca & i used Nolvadex (unknowingly) hence the reason for the Letro.

My main goal is to get cut up & maybe lose 15 pounds.

Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro
Day 6: 2.0mg Letro
Day 7: 1.5mg Letro
Day 8: 1.0mg Letro
Day 9: .50mg Letro
Day 10: .25mg Letro
Day 11: .25mg Letro
Day 12: .25mg Letro
Day 13: .25mg Letro
Day 14: .25mg Letro

Week 1:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen / 100 mg winni

Week 2:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 3:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 4:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 5:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 6 & 7
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

PCT:
Day 1- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva + .25mg Letro
Day 2-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Thanks, Ill appreciate any feedback, good or bad!!

**(1*)** · 04-28-2008, 04:43 AM

you need to read more... this doesn't look right at all. i'm no pro at this but test prop should be done more than twice a week.... like, every day. the tren (depends) should be more as well. you will get NOTHING from winny twice a week.. and NOTHING from clen twice a week, and that's assuming that you are planning 100 mcgs and not 100 mg. i don't think i would do the letro every day either. that's more for emergencies concerning gyno. you will hurt your estrogen levels this way. study more. this cycle will give you messed up signals and levels.

**Bulldog1115** · 04-28-2008, 05:10 AM

^^^agreed...prop and tren need to last be pinned EOD and u need to research way more buddy..and so does the winni ...please read up

**Garbanzo Dude** · 04-28-2008, 12:22 PM

strange cycle.....read up much more.....as said above test prop needs to be done EOD at the very least. Why all the letro??? prop has low amt.

**Newbie2008** · 04-28-2008, 01:52 PM

Thanks for the feedback, I'll have to do some more reading up on it. Reason I only took clen & winni only 2 times a week, is cuz I was trying to avoid having to inject myself. But I guess Ill have to suck it up and come up with a proper cycle.

Thanks guys

**(1*)** · 04-28-2008, 07:04 PM

you can take clen and winni orally. if you don't like sticking yourself then get a longer mix... test e or c and do something other then tren ..... i don't think you are ready for tren.. study more before doing any more aas. use the search button, it's a good tool.

**Bulldog1115** · 04-28-2008, 07:16 PM

NEWB USING TREN ! ..no!....the only thing that will cut uup is diet and cardio.. no drug can do it without that!

**NATE0406** · 04-28-2008, 07:19 PM

cycle is bad bro. a lot more research. cycle doesnt even make sense. why are you wanting to do one week on and one off for everything?

**boss4romdabay** · 04-28-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Newbie2008

Hey, I have been reading as many post as I can trying to come up with a good cycle, here is what I have come up with. Any feedback? Good? Bad? Back to the drawing board?

Stats: 24 yrs old/220 pounds/ 14 % BF/ 6 feet tall. I have done 3 cycles before which included Sus/Deca & i used Nolvadex (unknowingly) hence the reason for the Letro.

My main goal is to get cut up & maybe lose 15 pounds.

Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro
Day 6: 2.0mg Letro
Day 7: 1.5mg Letro
Day 8: 1.0mg Letro
Day 9: .50mg Letro
Day 10: .25mg Letro
Day 11: .25mg Letro
Day 12: .25mg Letro
Day 13: .25mg Letro
Day 14: .25mg Letro

Week 1:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen / 100 mg winni

Week 2:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 3:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 4:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 5:
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg testosterone propenate/100 mg tren
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

Week 6 & 7
anvar 40 mg ED
.25mg Letro ED
Sunday & Thursday:
100mg clen/ 100 mg winni

PCT:
Day 1- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva + .25mg Letro
Day 2-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Thanks, Ill appreciate any feedback, good or bad!!

wow lol uhmm... do a littke more research bro!

**Phate** · 04-28-2008, 09:59 PM

btw, next time you write out a cycle do it like this
1-4 dbol 40mg/day
1-12 test e 500mg/week

the first thing is what weeks your running it for, like the dbol is going to be weeks 1-4, and the test is weeks 1-12, then the compound, then how much your going to run, orals write how much per day and injectable do how much per week

it makes it easier on us for reading

**Kratos** · 04-28-2008, 10:04 PM

I haven't seen a cycle that silly in awhile. Are you starting letro 2 weeks early? You don't need to do that. You can start it the same day you start your cycle. I know the half life is long and it takes a long time for blood levels to be stable, but I have read studies showing a good rate of inhibition of the enzyme very quickly.

**Kratos** · 04-28-2008, 10:06 PM

Next issue, you got a lot of crap in there, noting has the right time frame, everything is all over the place.

**Kratos** · 04-28-2008, 10:08 PM

You could do something like Test prop 125 mg every other day for 7 weeks
Anavar every day for 7 weeks. simple as that. Leave the tren out.

**Kratos** · 04-28-2008, 10:09 PM

Pct is not my favorite, I see no reason for 2 serms.

try day 1-30 aromasin 25mg/nolva 20 mg every day

**Kratos** · 04-28-2008, 10:12 PM

you could throw the clen in, but it isn't as simple as running 100mcg ed. It needs to be tapered up and everyone needs to find their own upper limit. I like the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off method, but you really need to look up Perfect Beast's clen FAQ.

click this
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

**Newbie2008** · 05-03-2008, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

Pct is not my favorite, I see no reason for 2 serms.

try day 1-30 aromasin 25mg/nolva 20 mg every day

Hey, thanks for the info & ya I know I was all over the place with the cycle. I think I read through the forums to fast i guess lol.. But thanks for the information. And I think I am going to go with the 7 weeks of Propinate & anvar cycle. I cant get any aromasin though, would it be the same if I used arimidex or Clomid?

And one more question, how long before I start by PCT after my cycle?

Thanks