Cycle Engineering, Heres a Thought!

[TexasTraining]

I wrote this on another board from witch i am a prominent member, some may know me here who knows.

Engineering the Perfect Cycle!

I Base this theory from studies and trials done over time witch I have been fortunate to read. The mindset most people have is that enanthate half life is really 5 days, while this is true it also is false, most people believe that if they take 500mg of Test E and inject once per week, that by time the next injection is due there blood values just then start to decrease and then they add another 500mg and wow there now at 1000 and so on, but users started experiencing more side using it this way ie test flu, acne high blood pressure and so forth. Then users started splitting the dosages Monday and Thursday as an attempt to not take so much at one time and keep sides to a minimum, while this has shown to be the most popular some users depending on the sensitivity to the compound have sides that witch they complain of. Well with further study reason behind the complaints and bad reviews was because of fluctuating blood values. Well from testimonials and further research the advise witch I am going to give can reap much better gains, much less sides and a true stable blood value.


Take the Beginners Test E only cycle @ 500mg/wk

Great first cycle, but why not take it in a way that can give you the most bang for the buck. Say your compound is 250mg/ml you need to account for a few things,

1 Most ug labs and even human grade products are under dosed.
2 When you inject a compound your body only uses about 75-80% the rest becomes unused in the body and turned to waste.
3 Enanthate actually start to lose its value by day 3 after the injection by as much as 12%

So being that said, I?m going to assume a 25% loss on everything, to make up for the above two points. So to equal 250mg you would really need to inject 312.5mg to equal 250mg so to run your Monday Thursday with that principle you would need to inject 312.5 mg every Monday and Thursday, BUT your still going to have unstable and fluctuating levels resulting in some unwanted sides and can inhibit max growth ability.

Well to counter this I propose that when running say test and your target Value for the cycle is 500mg/wk run it like the following

On day one inject 625mg witch would equal 500mg. Then every third day inject 75mg to keep your values at 500mg, at all times with no fluctuating and better results.

Now your asking how did I get these numbers. Simple. 500mg X 0.25% loss = 125mg loss, so in order to get a true 500 you need to add your loss 125mg to the target 500mg = 625mg. And for the maintenance dose. If by day 3 your values have decreased 12% that would leave you blood values @ 440mg, 60mg off from your target value, in order to get that 60mg back you would need to resort back to my 25% waste factor, 60mg X 0.25% loss = 15mg of lost compound so to compensate you would add 15mg to the target 60mg and inject 75mg every third day witch would give you the needed 60mg that you would lose in that third day.
Say you wanted to take 750mg Test E /WK

Day one you would need to inject 937.5mg and every third day 112.5mg to keep values at a steady and even 750mg.

The same theory can also be applied to Decanate Esters, but using a 10% decrease in blood values instead of 12% by day 3

So a Test deca cycle running at 750mg/Test E and 300mg / Nandralone

Would be run like this

Day one inject 937.5mg of Test and 375mg Nandralone and on every third day inject 112.5mg test e and 37.5mg Nandralone

I know that that first day will be about 5-6cc but once you get through that every third day your looking at about 1cc and much better results.


So yeah that?s what I wanted to say, hope this helps out a bit. I know genepool and ironwork both use this method and have had spectacular results,



Tex

[TexasTraining]

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[Schmidty]

bump... It makes a lot of sence on paper but what works on paper isnt always the way it works on us...

[johnnybigguns]

Its a good thought but if you think about the 15 day active life of enanthate by the 16th day you woudl have under a 250mg level in your blood.

[TexasTraining]

Its a good thought but if you think about the 15 day active life of enanthate by the 16th day you woudl have under a 250mg level in your blood.

Actually after the 16th day you would have a much lower lvl than 250mg

[Z-Ro]

I see where you are going with this but if you want to keep your blood levels really stable why not just use Prop?

[Dukkit]

first ive heard of this theory, it sounds like it makes sense. i would have to actually see some blood tests and whatnot before gettin to the point of switching up my routines.

[TexasTraining]

I see where you are going with this but if you want to keep your blood levels really stable why not just use Prop?

True, but some people hate prop such as myself.

But the same principal can be applied with prop as well, with multiple injections one day to reach the target value, and maintenance injections every other day.



Tex

[Z-Ro]

True, but some people hate prop such as myself.

But the same principal can be applied with prop as well, with multiple injections one day to reach the target value, and maintenance injections every other day.



Tex

Well if I was going to do multiple injections I would just use HG Prop--painless. Although the only reason I do not is because of multiple injections--I do not like sticking myself all the time.

Pin cushion effect you know.

[TJM7275]

Interesting Tex!!

[lex57]

ummmm, wow so its frontloading. i dont think its anything new is it? i mean 5 to 6 mls the first day then maintaince doses every third day. that is classic frontloading or am i missing something. you just have a differnt theory of what the maintaince dose should be. "which" i think is too low personally. but to each their own i just dont see the revelation here.

[johnnybigguns]

Actually after the 16th day you would have a much lower lvl than 250mg

Thats what I just said. You would actually have about 236mg. BUt if you injected 200mg of test e every 3 days after about 2 weeks you would maintain over a 500mg blood level.

[lex57]

Thats what I just said. You would actually have about 236mg. BUt if you injected 200mg of test e every 3 days after about 2 weeks you would maintain over a 500mg blood level.

thats what i am saying exactly, the maintaince dose is too low for me also. and as i said i get no sides the way i have done for years with good results. i just dont fix what aint broke. i agree with johnny

[Kratos]

Total dog crap math
#1 never assume your gear is underdose, often times it's overdosed, I make my own to avoid confusion.
#2 What you have written out is not an equivelent cycle/a safer cycle/ a more inteligent cycle/ a less likely to test flu cycle. It amounts to a frontload and inadequate subsequent doses. Why would your values decrease only 12% in 3 days? Half lifes are not linear, it's a parabolic curve.

Chuck that and start over

[millionairemurph]

Total dog crap math
#1 never assume your gear is underdose, often times it's overdosed, I make my own to avoid confusion.
#2 What you have written out is not an equivelent cycle/a safer cycle/ a more inteligent cycle/ a less likely to test flu cycle. It amounts to a frontload and inadequate subsequent doses. Why would your values decrease only 12% in 3 days? Half lifes are not linear, it's a parabolic curve.

Chuck that and start over

^^^^ once again i agree with kratos.

Most of us have or know someone who has used test e @ 500mg a week safely. So regardless of how much actual test their bodies used, since enanthate esters are all the same, all of the users got the same amount of test. And it was safe, thats why its recomended. Your cycle, not as much. I dont see any benefit of it. Nice try.