New to Deca, HELP?!?!?

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 06:32 PM

Just wanted to say this site has alot of great info and now to my question for you guys with the anabolic experience.

I am a 37 year old male, 5'11 195 Ibs. I have been working out for 7 years now and went from 168 Ibs when I started to 195-201 Ibs it bounces up and down between there. I work out atleast 5 times a week, used to 6 or 7 yes I know the body needs rest live and learn. I have gotten as big as I can naturally or atleast close enough and with all that stuff in GNC, creatine, cell tech etc.

A bodybuilder in
the gym recommended Deca , I have read here and there where Deca is recommended to be taken with testosterone , my questions are, do you guys recommend it? Pills or needles? Which testosterone? Pills etc? How do I cycle it?

Any help is appreciated, thanks guys.

**Big** · 04-30-2008, 06:42 PM

I'll have this moved to the steroid section, you will get more input there...

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I'll have this moved to the steroid section, you will get more input there...

Much appreciated.

**MasterShake** · 04-30-2008, 07:08 PM

Well, you need to do a little homework, and I would look into a test only cycle for your first run. Look at the beginner's cycle thread. read alot of posts in here... and use the search button... put together what you want to do for your cycle, and your pct, and post back up so we can take a look at it.

**jackdup04** · 04-30-2008, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by MasterShake

Well, you need to do a little homework, and I would look into a test only cycle for your first run. Look at the beginner's cycle thread. read alot of posts in here... and use the search button... put together what you want to do for your cycle, and your pct, and post back up so we can take a look at it.

Agreed^^^ If u do choose to stay with deca ur gonna want test with it so mabye start with a test only cycle..Congrats on natural gains though...

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by MasterShake

Well, you need to do a little homework, and I would look into a test only cycle for your first run. Look at the beginner's cycle thread. read alot of posts in here... and use the search button... put together what you want to do for your cycle, and your pct, and post back up so we can take a look at it.

Will do what do you mean by pct? %?

I know what I would like to do, I have read alot about Deca and would like to try a cycle but I am unclear as to which test I would require. Pills or needles etc, I would prefer pills.

I will do some reading up on here, alot of great info.

Originally Posted by jackdup04

Agreed^^^ If u do choose to stay with deca ur gonna want test with it so mabye start with a test only cycle..Congrats on natural gains though...

Thanks, its been tough but rewarding but I think I need to get to the next level.

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 04-30-2008, 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=TonyNYC]I am unclear as to which test I would require. Pills or needles etc, I would prefer pills.
QUOTE]

i hear you on the pills part..as a 1st timer youre not too sure on injecting yourself...with that said...

personally i have never heard of test or deca comming in pills...even if they did you would take alot of pills....think about this..its going to be harsh on your liver

are you only looking to bulk?

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=Emilio_Rebenga;3955881]

Originally Posted by TonyNYC

I am unclear as to which test I would require. Pills or needles etc, I would prefer pills.
QUOTE]

i hear you on the pills part..as a 1st timer youre not too sure on injecting yourself...with that said...

personally i have never heard of test or deca comming in pills...even if they did you would take alot of pills....think about this..its going to be harsh on your liver

are you only looking to bulk?

Pretty much, simply put I want to get thicker.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

**thawk** · 04-30-2008, 08:29 PM

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy and will help your body start producing its own test. Deca is a 19nor compound so it seriously shuts down your natural test production. There is an entire sub-forum devoted to PCT, I HIGHLY recommend that you heavily read up on it.

Dont know much about the pills, but I would recommend shooting Test Enanthate with Deca. They are both long ester, so the shot cycle will work well together.

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by thawk

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy and will help your body start producing its own test. Deca is a 19nor compound so it seriously shuts down your natural test production. There is an entire sub-forum devoted to PCT, I HIGHLY recommend that you heavily read up on it.

Dont know much about the pills, but I would recommend shooting Test Enanthate with Deca. They are both long ester, so the shot cycle will work well together.

Im learning something new with every post and thread I read on here thanks!

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 04-30-2008, 08:33 PM

personally as far as test goes i would go with sustanon ...i found my pumps to be unreal with it..the only reason i cant continue to workout is b/c my muscles are too pumped...sounds crazy right? i still have the energy to do it but my muscles wont allow me...i love it!!

good luck on your cycle journey bro

**boondockSAINT** · 04-30-2008, 08:35 PM

You should probably start with a Test Enanthate only cycle first. That way you can see how your body responds, and if everything is good add Deca to the next cycle with Test Enanthate. You ALWAYS run Test with a 19-nor. You should probably just look over the Steroid Profiles in the other forum. PCT is a must for any cycle.

Here's some categories for starters and some of the more popular AAS in each:

TEST
Long Ester - Enanthate
Short Ester - Prop
Pill - DBol

19-Nor
Deca
Tren

DHT
Winny
Masteron

**TonyNYC** · 04-30-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Emilio_Rebenga

personally as far as test goes i would go with sustanon ...i found my pumps to be unreal with it..the only reason i cant continue to workout is b/c my muscles are too pumped...sounds crazy right? i still have the energy to do it but my muscles wont allow me...i love it!!

good luck on your cycle journey bro

Thats what im talking about!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by boondockSAINT

You should probably start with a Test Enanthate only cycle first. That way you can see how your body responds, and if everything is good add Deca to the next cycle with Test Enanthate. You ALWAYS run Test with a 19-nor. You should probably just look over the Steroid Profiles in the other forum. PCT is a must for any cycle.

Here's some categories for starters and some of the more popular AAS in each:

TEST
Long Ester - Enanthate
Short Ester - Prop
Pill - DBol

19-Nor
Deca
Tren

DHT
Winny
Masteron

You guys are great, thanks.

My head is going to explode from the inrush of information. Great stuff.

I have ALOT of reading to do.

**thawk** · 04-30-2008, 08:43 PM

I also agree on the Test only cycle the first go around. It shows you how/if gyno prone you are, and also how your body will react to the added hormones.

I would recommend starting out at 500mg/week of Test Enanthate , but break it up into 2 shots. Do one on mon and thurs. I ran 500mg test and 500mg deca a week for my first cycle. Everything was fine, but got minor gyno towards the end. I wish I would of just done a Test only cycle first, just to see how it was.

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 04-30-2008, 08:46 PM

clomid will help with the gyno...its always good to have some of that on hand just in case!

everyone's body reacts different...run the test only and see your results and your body's reaction..you never kno..you might be happy with just that...for it being your 1st cycle you should have good gains

**Phate** · 04-30-2008, 08:58 PM

**Ashop** · 04-30-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by TonyNYC

Just wanted to say this site has alot of great info and now to my question for you guys with the anabolic experience.

I am a 37 year old male, 5'11 195 Ibs. I have been working out for 7 years now and went from 168 Ibs when I started to 195-201 Ibs it bounces up and down between there. I work out atleast 5 times a week, used to 6 or 7 yes I know the body needs rest live and learn. I have gotten as big as I can naturally or atleast close enough and with all that stuff in GNC, creatine, cell tech etc.

A bodybuilder in
the gym recommended Deca , I have read here and there where Deca is recommended to be taken with testosterone , my questions are, do you guys recommend it? Pills or needles? Which testosterone? Pills etc? How do I cycle it?

Any help is appreciated, thanks guys.

deca is best at 2mg per lb of bodyweight.

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