Short cycle advice needed. Want to do this on holiday!

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-03-2008, 12:33 PM

Ok I cant find answers as im starting to think the answers I want to hear dont exist lol
Yet I hear many times of people doing short cycles and they being very effective.

So, Im permanently moving to Australia in a few months. On my way over I intend spending a few weeks (around 4-6, advice of this thread will determine) relaxing in thailand (been there many times).
Now we all know that roids are readily available in Thailand and i'll be able to get pretty much whatever I want.

Im strongly considering going on cycle while Im there. They have great gyms, swimming pools, massage etc and I'll probably take up Muay Thai boxing also.

However, what could I use in that short a time considering I will also need to do PCT in thailand as bringing stuff to Australia is out of the question.

My thoughts are on Test Suspension or Prop and maybe Tren with Proviron .
But I really dont know so please guys help me out.

**whiskey15** · 05-03-2008, 12:38 PM

I personally would not do a cycle that short, are you also trying to do the pct within 4-6weeks? If you are doing the PCT in Australia which I suggest you do, the test suspension would be a nice 4-6 week cycle since it begins to enter the blood stream almost immediately after an injection but you have to love needles lol.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-03-2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by whiskey15

I personally would not do a cycle that short, are you also trying to do the pct within 4-6weeks? If you are doing the PCT in Australia which I suggest you do, the test suspension would be a nice 4-6 week cycle since it begins to enter the blood stream almost immediately after an injection but you have to love needles lol.

Id have no problem injecting suspension everyday. I'll get a nice Thai cutey to massage my sore spots better for me!!

When should PCT start after Test Suspension????

If I used HCG on 4 weeks of Suspension hopefully I wouldnt shut down much.
Then I'd have 2 weeks to do heavy PCT of Nolva, Clomid, something else?

Doing PCT in Australia is not an option - cant smuggle PCT into Oz and have no source to buy it there either.

**whiskey15** · 05-03-2008, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

Id have no problem injecting suspension everyday. I'll get a nice Thai cutey to massage my sore spots better for me!!

When should PCT start after Test Suspension????

If I used HCG on 4 weeks of Suspension hopefully I wouldnt shut down much.
Then I'd have 2 weeks to do heavy PCT of Nolva, Clomid, something else?

Doing PCT in Australia is not an option - cant smuggle PCT into Oz and have no source to buy it there either.

If you only do 4 weeks of test suspension, 2 weeks of PCT is enough IMO

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-03-2008, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by whiskey15

If you only do 4 weeks of test suspension, 2 weeks of PCT is enough IMO

Does PCT start right after last injection with suspension? (24hr's after?)

What could I add to the Test?? Is Tren an idea?

**whiskey15** · 05-03-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

Does PCT start right after last injection with suspension? (24hr's after?)

What could I add to the Test?? Is Tren an idea?

yes 24hours. I dont like taking orals anymore so I would just do the test susp

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-03-2008, 05:03 PM

bump for an additional to the Test

**VWbug66** · 05-04-2008, 01:41 AM

prop

**Lemonada8** · 05-04-2008, 01:52 AM

if you do tren , you will need more of a pct, than what you want to do, so if you cant do a good pct *like anthony roberts* then dont add tren, if u can tho.. add tren a becasue you can inject it ED a/ the susp... and it will kick in faster

**boondockSAINT** · 05-04-2008, 02:25 AM

A 4-6 week Prop/Tren combo would be great. What's your cycle history though?

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by boondockSAINT

A 4-6 week Prop/Tren combo would be great. What's your cycle history though?

Just one cycle which Im finishing up now.
wk 1-12 Test cyp 466mg e/w
wk 1-4 Dbol 40mg e/d
wk 1-4 Proviron
wk 10-13 Winny 50mg e/d
HCG , Nolva, Clomid,

**boondockSAINT** · 05-04-2008, 02:50 AM

Quite a few compounds in there. If you handle it well and have no unbearable sides I'd step up to the 19-nor. I just did a 6 week Prop/Tren cycle and loved it. Can't wait to go at it again.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by boondockSAINT

Quite a few compounds in there. If you handle it well and have no unbearable sides I'd step up to the 19-nor. I just did a 6 week Prop/Tren cycle and loved it. Can't wait to go at it again.

Just a bit of back acne thats all

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by boondockSAINT

Quite a few compounds in there. If you handle it well and have no unbearable sides I'd step up to the 19-nor. I just did a 6 week Prop/Tren cycle and loved it. Can't wait to go at it again.

How did you feel on it and how was the sex drive?

**boondockSAINT** · 05-04-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

How did you feel on it and how was the sex drive?

I felt great, sex drive was through the roof. 525 Prop, 350 Tren . I'm considering reversing doses on my second cycle as I got a lot more from this than my Prop only cycle, but thing went so well I might just keep it the same way.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 12:28 PM

Good stuff.
How would this look?
wk 1-4 Test Suspension 75mg e/d
wk 1-4 Tren 50mg e/d
wk 1-4 Proviron 50mg e/d
wk 1-4 HCG 500iu twice a week.......would this keep me good for a 2week PCT
Nolva, clomid, HCG, anything else?

**Lemonada8** · 05-04-2008, 01:25 PM

if you can, do the test 1 week longer to make sure the tren ace is completly out...

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

if you can, do the test 1 week longer to make sure the tren ace is completly out...

Would stopping Tren 3 days before the Test be acceptable??

I know Im really messing around with this cycle but Im trying to make the best of it.
Pattaya has to be the best place I can imagine doing a cycle and cheap + totally legal before I enter Australia for the next few years.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-04-2008, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

Good stuff.
How would this look?
wk 1-4 Test Suspension 75mg e/d
wk 1-4 Tren 50mg e/d
wk 1-4 Proviron 50mg e/d
wk 1-4 HCG 500iu twice a week.......would this keep me good for a 2week PCT
Nolva, clomid, HCG, anything else?

How hard will doing this shut me down?

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 03:00 AM

bump

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 06:51 AM

bump

**Lemonada8** · 05-05-2008, 06:52 AM

that would be close... u cant use nolva/arimedex in aussie land?

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

that would be close... u cant use nolva/arimedex in aussie land?

Hmmm not sure. Any ozzies able to tell us???
Can I bring it on the plane???

**boondockSAINT** · 05-05-2008, 07:46 AM

I'm not into the advanced PCT so I'm note sure. What I did was:

Prop 525 1-6
Tren 350 1-6
Adex .25ED 1-6

Clomid 100 7-8, 50 9-10
Nolva 20 7-10
Adex .25 7-10

I was a horndog on cycle and I still am 2 weeks into PCT so I'm not sure how shut down I am. Should be even better if you stick to 4 weeks.

Also, I was going to run the Prop longer than the Tren but I didn't feel any sides and injecting just Prop hurt like a bitch, so I decided to end them together.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by boondockSAINT

I'm not into the advanced PCT so I'm note sure. What I did was:

Prop 525 1-6
Tren 350 1-6
Adex .25ED 1-6

Clomid 100 7-8, 50 9-10
Nolva 20 7-10
Adex .25 7-10

I was a horndog on cycle and I still am 2 weeks into PCT so I'm not sure how shut down I am. Should be even better if you stick to 4 weeks.

Also, I was going to run the Prop longer than the Tren but I didn't feel any sides and injecting just Prop hurt like a bitch, so I decided to end them together.

Good. Im thinking with HCG used on cycle I can get away with this.

Anyone know what PCT I can bring on plane to Oz?

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 03:17 PM

Anyone?

**Lemonada8** · 05-05-2008, 03:18 PM

well i u get the pill form, you can just put in in a bottle of ibprofen i bet...

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 05-05-2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

well i u get the pill form, you can just put in in a bottle of ibprofen i bet...

Australia is extremely strict with customs apparently. Id normally not worry bout bring stuff thru airports but rather be on the safe side this time.

Nolva and Clomid - legal in Oz? Or something else I can use that is legal?