Please comment on my gear/cycle!

**tdln** · 05-04-2008, 08:55 PM

Hi there:

I am a new steroid user and I would like some commentary on my gear and cycle.

I am into the second week of a ten week cycle, combining 1ml of Deca and 1ml of Sustanon in each weekly injection.

Here are the chemical properties of my gear:

Deca 300 - 10 ml bottle
300mg/ml
Nandrolone Decanode

Sustanol '250' - 1ml bottle
1ml:
30 mg testosteroni propionat
60 mg testosteroni phenylpropionat
60 mg testosteroni isocaproat
100 mg testosteroni decanoat
N.V. Organon Oss Holland
20043/109w

I am only taking the above injection once per week, combining 1 ml of each....

I just want to get bigger, but I do not plan to compete professionally or anything like that....

Do you think the above is OK? Any comments would be much appreciated.

**colts2407** · 05-04-2008, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by tdln

Hi there:

I am a new steroid user and I would like some commentary on my gear and cycle.

I am into the second week of a ten week cycle, combining 1ml of Deca and 1ml of Sustanon in each weekly injection.

Here are the chemical properties of my gear:

Deca 300 - 10 ml bottle
300mg/ml
Nandrolone Decanode

Sustanol '250' - 1ml bottle
1ml:
30 mg testosteroni propionat
60 mg testosteroni phenylpropionat
60 mg testosteroni isocaproat
100 mg testosteroni decanoat
N.V. Organon Oss Holland
20043/109w

I am only taking the above injection once per week, combining 1 ml of each....

I just want to get bigger, but I do not plan to compete professionally or anything like that....

Do you think the above is OK? Any comments would be much appreciated.

you need to inject more than once a week

**smokethedays** · 05-04-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by tdln

Hi there:

I am a new steroid user and I would like some commentary on my gear and cycle.

I am into the second week of a ten week cycle, combining 1ml of Deca and 1ml of Sustanon in each weekly injection.

Here are the chemical properties of my gear:

Deca 300 - 10 ml bottle
300mg/ml
Nandrolone Decanode

Sustanol '250' - 1ml bottle
1ml:
30 mg testosteroni propionat
60 mg testosteroni phenylpropionat
60 mg testosteroni isocaproat
100 mg testosteroni decanoat
N.V. Organon Oss Holland
20043/109w

I am only taking the above injection once per week, combining 1 ml of each....

I just want to get bigger, but I do not plan to compete professionally or anything like that....

Do you think the above is OK? Any comments would be much appreciated.

**tdln** · 05-04-2008, 09:01 PM

I'm not competing professionally nor do I intend to in the future....

I don't mind slower gains, as long as I am gaining.....

Do you think the above is OK?

**duggadoo** · 05-04-2008, 09:15 PM

no its not ok because of sust having short esters in it only shooting once per week will cause blood level to spike and fall from injection to injection opening up the possiblity of more pronounced side effect.... therefore shooting the sust eod to e3d would be a better choice.. Do you have a PCT ready for the cessation of your cycle...oh yea and give us your stats as well

**tdln** · 05-04-2008, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by duggadoo

no its not ok because of sust having short esters in it only shooting once per week will cause blood level to spike and fall from injection to injection opening up the possiblity of more pronounced side effect.... therefore shooting the sust eod to e3d would be a better choice.. Do you have a PCT ready for the cessation of your cycle...oh yea and give us your stats as well

My stats:

Age: 30
Weight: 73 kilograms
Height: 158 cms

Training 3 - 4 times per week; 70% lower body and 30% upper body.

I am currently looking into getting PCT medications for the end of my cycle....

**Outta Kontrol** · 05-04-2008, 10:53 PM

firstly, I would say that if you are new to AAS you should do 1 compound **HINT** Test. and you will get great results if your diet and training is on point... especially for what your goals are???? rather what are your goals??? but looking at the cycle you have laid out I would say:

so your doing 250 mgs of sust a week and 300 mg of deca a week? and your injecting once a week? Once a week maybe okay for the deca but inject the sust at least every 3rd day.

Not sure what your goal actually is tho... post something like " I want to gain 15 pounds by the end of the 10 week cycle." I want to get bigger aint gonna cut it.

Also consider bumping up the amout of test... to 400 mg week

Lastly, you should have had PCT on hand before you even started your cycle!!!

thats my 2 cents

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 05-04-2008, 10:56 PM

sus needs to be shot EOD or atleast E3d to keep levels stable once a week is not good enough, deca should be broken in to 2 doses and injected twice a week

**tdln** · 05-05-2008, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Outta Kontrol

firstly, I would say that if you are new to AAS you should do 1 compound **HINT** Test. and you will get great results if your diet and training is on point... especially for what your goals are???? rather what are your goals??? but looking at the cycle you have laid out I would say:

so your doing 250 mgs of sust a week and 300 mg of deca a week? and your injecting once a week? Once a week maybe okay for the deca but inject the sust at least every 3rd day.

Not sure what your goal actually is tho... post something like " I want to gain 15 pounds by the end of the 10 week cycle." I want to get bigger aint gonna cut it.

Also consider bumping up the amout of test... to 400 mg week

Lastly, you should have had PCT on hand before you even started your cycle!!!

thats my 2 cents

Thanks for the helpful advice....

PCT drugs are a priority for me right now. I'm looking right into it.

I have quite modest expectations actually. I will be happy if I gained 5 kilograms after my 10 week cycle.

**tdln** · 05-05-2008, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!

sus needs to be shot EOD or atleast E3d to keep levels stable once a week is not good enough, deca should be broken in to 2 doses and injected twice a week

Does that mean that I should break the Deca dose into 1/2 ml each BUT twice per week?

**ChuckLee** · 05-05-2008, 12:50 AM

Injecting those gears once per week will give you nothing but sides.
Read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

CL

**tdln** · 05-05-2008, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Injecting those gears once per week will give you nothing but sides.
Read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

CL

So you think that my gains will be minimal/non-existent with that combo and that I will only experience side-effects?

I cannot actually afford to do it more than once per week.

Is there an alternative combo you would recommend for someone in my situation?

**ChuckLee** · 05-05-2008, 12:58 AM

Leave the sust, as someone other said, it has to be injected EOD, otherwise don't mess with it.

A standard first cycle should be 2 shots of Test E/C per week at 250mg each, for 10/12 weeks.
Keep deca for a next course.

Do you know what's PCT?

**tdln** · 05-05-2008, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Leave the sust, as someone other said, it has to be injected EOD, otherwise don't mess with it.

A standard first cycle should be 2 shots of Test E/C per week at 250mg each, for 10/12 weeks.
Keep deca for a next course.

Do you know what's PCT?

Yes, I am looking into PCT drugs right now to take when my 10 week cycle is over. I am having a hard time getting drugs like Nolvadex in Australia through doctors...so I have to turn to other sources.

By the way, what does 'EOD' stand for?