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  1. 05-19-2008, 05:36 PM #1
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    Please forgive me..

    If this sounds stupid, but since certain drugs are used in PCT to restart Test levels.. couldn't they be used alone as a natural test boost?
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    actually that's not a stupid question, but the reality is that these drugs are sufficient to boost your levels back near a normal state, but not sufficient to noticeably increase the levels above normal.
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    Best question ive seen all day, but yeah the man above is right not enough to surpass nat test levels to give you a desired aas effect.
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    jesus, thats gotta be the dumbest question ever!!!!!!!!!

    What is wrong with you?!?!?!?!?



    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    jesus, thats gotta be the dumbest question ever!!!!!!!!!

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    lol
    lol my friend
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  6. 05-19-2008, 05:57 PM #6
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    but what is not discussed, what levels of normal..

    each person is different, and the older we get the lower our "normal" levels can be.

    The real issue is using these drugs that we do for a short period is ok, the sides can be very bad for some (me) and thus a long term use is not practical, so no, the cannot be used in this manner..

    anyone else have a thought on this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    but what is not discussed, what levels of normal..

    each person is different, and the older we get the lower our "normal" levels can be.

    The real issue is using these drugs that we do for a short period is ok, the sides can be very bad for some (me) and thus a long term use is not practical, so no, the cannot be used in this manner..

    anyone else have a thought on this??
    as for what level of normal, I have wondered the same thing. what bad sides did you have?
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    Hmm.. well, I guess that answers my question.. thanks bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    but what is not discussed, what levels of normal..

    each person is different, and the older we get the lower our "normal" levels can be.

    The real issue is using these drugs that we do for a short period is ok, the sides can be very bad for some (me) and thus a long term use is not practical, so no, the cannot be used in this manner..

    anyone else have a thought on this??

    yeah im interested in sides m8 aswell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    as for what level of normal, I have wondered the same thing. what bad sides did you have?
    Mostly blurred vision, thus i will only run low dose clomid/nolva/hcg

    but let non prescription supps do the rest of the work, keeping me in the high normal range..
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    how soon did the vision problems set in with the clomid? I've never used it for more than a month, but I haven't experienced it. I've heard that many do, so I consider myself lucky.
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    sorry for hijacking the tread here, but what kind of non prescription sups du you use Spywizard?? just interested in keeping my test levels high between cycles and i figured someone with over 10 000 posts knows that better than the chick behind the counter at GNC...
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    no legit otc is good enough to keep test high.
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    probably not. but maybe high normal range?? thats good enough for me between cycles..
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