underdosed gear?

[hdrider135]

im on this underground test e 300. im doin 600mg/week. ive been hearin that people on this stuff arent getting really big mass gains but are getting pretty good strength gains. what would this imply, that it is underdosed? or what?

[Emilio_Rebenga]

this could mean that "people" havent been eating good.
it could mean that people have a high % of body fat.
prob. some bunk gear.



it could mean alot of things.


what is it doing for you?

[hdrider135]

not too much so far ive just been getting really good pumps in the gym. ive been on for 4 weeks as of tonight. should i be seeing more?
also ill mention that most of these guys were doin only 300mg/week

[hdrider135]

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[sassbs11]

Dont compare your gains to other ppl m8 as results are never the same for everyone, genetics, diet, workout regime,rest , there just some of the factors that differ for everyone, so taking the same dosage or more aas than the guy next to you at the gym doesnt necessarily mean youll gain more than him

[hdrider135]

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[Cfh_Y_guy]

raw powders are cheap i cant see them underdosing it to much

[lex57]

raw powders are cheap i cant see them underdosing it to much

are you serious?????????

[Cfh_Y_guy]

are you serious?????????

and your from america im guessing

[Emilio_Rebenga]

not too much so far ive just been getting really good pumps in the gym. ive been on for 4 weeks as of tonight. should i be seeing more?
also ill mention that most of these guys were doin only 300mg/week

give me your stats...and what youre trying to do...im not going to assume anything or say anything untill i get all the info...how much do you eat. how long do u sleep for.


break it all down so we can help you..but you're deff feeling the test..just the results you're expecting arent there. correct?

are you weighing yourself and measuring your body everyday?

[lex57]

and your from america im guessing

so because i am from america, it means that underground labs would'nt underdose or scam anybody huh? gimme a break people will scam you anywhere in the world. oh there must be no scammers in winnipeg.

[lex57]

raw powders are cheap i cant see them underdosing it to much

just as to not hijack this thread i started a thread about your comment if you wish to defend your statement. but i am pretty sure you will not......you are canadian of course.

[hdrider135]

6'0
208 lbs.
bodyfat is probably mid teens
i just recently lost 40 pounds so im trying to put some mass on now but not too much fat
its not so much that im not getting the results that i expected its just that ive been hearing stuff about it from other people taking it
im hoping that i will start to see some gains soon tho cuz its been 4 weeks
i sleep 8-10 hours a night during the week and 10-12 hours on weekend nights
my diet consists of chicken, rice, beans, wheat bread, hardboiled eggs, nonfat milk, vegetables, fruit, sometimes red meat
i eat every 2-3 hours and i eat some combination of the things i listed

[hdrider135]

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[hdrider135]

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[Deen54]

this is a no brainer...of course they are under dosing..they are in this to make money
not to help a guy get big...lol!..come on get real!...let's not delude ourselves and be
naive.

[NATE0406]

well bro my best guess would that it is either underdosed or bunk. you should have noticed somthing by now.

[hdrider135]

what should have i noticed? i thought 4 weeks was the kick in time? ive gotten good pumps and some strentgth but i dont think any mass yet

[NATE0406]

well if its only been 4 weeks and you are getting good pumps and strentgh gains then no worries. it takes i little while before you start to see mass. have you had any bloating at all??

[NATE0406]

but it could also be the plecibo effect. ive seen it many times where bros are taking shit supps and gear and "seem" to be getting better pumps. you will just have to wait it out and see.

[Deen54]

hdrider i'm not really directing this at you...i'm just saying to Y guy
that yes they do under dose. Think about it..there is no GMP standards to
watch over them. They can do as they like.

As for test E..yes it takes a while to kick in..they recommend a long cycle of
10-12 weeks for this...so next week or two you should be fully entrenched
in testosterone .

[Steel_Test]

I would like to say that may people forget about flooding the receptors, meaning no matter the dosage you can't keep taking the exact same thing and expect to get gains like you did from the first cycle.

"I will prob. get banned again for expressing my thoughts or comments." If you put an empty glass on the table and fill it with water and keep pouring it will spill over, RIGHT! So you figure you fill 3 glasses with 3 different liquids, and some how you can make it concentrated and you will be able to put in one glass. We are talking about receptors not glasses.

AND IF THIS IS NOT THE CASE!

"An old buddy of mine(CYCLONE) once said don't but cheap S*&T, your body will look like S*&T!"

Reputable phramaceuticals may cost more but you get what the bottle says.
NOT A HORSE OR A BULLDOG ON A LABLE. Kind of make you thing HORSE and DOG are additives in gear.

NOW IF I GET BANNED FOR THIS COMMENT, the price of gas will be $.75 per gallon and gear will be $200 per cc.

[Big]

I would think that the 4 week mark is a bit early to be looking for significant size gains. Give it a bit more time and see, keep us posted.

[hdrider135]

but it could also be the plecibo effect. ive seen it many times where bros are taking shit supps and gear and "seem" to be getting better pumps. you will just have to wait it out and see.

ya see im not sure if thats the case hear also, but ive just noticed that my muscles feel tight all the time, kinda like a small pump, and when i work out the pump/swell is pretty intense i guess like my skin feels like its stretching. my shoudler press went up the most i went up 15 pounds on each side but once again im not sure if it the juice or if im just pushing myself harder cuz im juicin.

[hdrider135]

as for bloating, im not sure, i dont really know what look for, but my stomach has been lookin bigger i guess and i guess my face feels kinda fat, but i dont know if this is bloating or if im getting fatter from a high carb diet

[lex57]

as for bloating, im not sure, i dont really know what look for, but my stomach has been lookin bigger i guess and i guess my face feels kinda fat, but i dont know if this is bloating or if im getting fatter from a high carb diet

do you wear a ring? that is my tell tale sign if i am getting bloated. if my ring gets a little tight then i know i am holding a bit.

[hdrider135]

shit i just stopped wearing it before i started

[lex57]

put it on see if it fits

[hdrider135]

ya it fits.
i talked to a buddy of mine who was who was on the same stuff but doing only 300mg/week. he said he gained 15 pounds, however he said he didnt think he looked a lot bigger when he looke in the mirror, but other people did. maybe cuz you look at your self everyday. i dunno im still worried

[Emilio_Rebenga]

youll be fine...the gear is prob underdosed...but keep running it the way that you are...dont expect to see 50lbs of muscle in a week...put if youve noticed your strength go up, you have good pumps, AND most importantly people notice the change in you...chanced are its working...give it a little more time brother

[hdrider135]

alright well i guess ill just keep you guys posted