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    Exclamation ProHormones + Anavar ??

    Not sure if this has been asked before (could not find much in the search) -


    Last week I bought Prohormone cycle consisting of Cellucor's P-6 Black Pro-Hormone and P-6 Red Pro-Androgenic formulas.

    Guy at the store told me you can take the Black for 6-8 weeks and then take the Red for 4 weeks, or he has seen good results stacking both (which is how most likely I'll take it), I was actually waiting for a cycle of Anavar but my source was taking too long so I looked into the prohormones for now.



    Anyhow, today I'm in the gym doing back and my source finally tells me he finally has some in **AFTER** I already purchased my prohormone cycle.


    So now I'm stuck thinking if I should just discontinue the prohormones and go straight for the Anavar, or do the Anavar first and then the prohormones ??

    Or can these substances be stacked and have a synergistic effect ??


    What is your advice ??

    My main goals are 8-10 lb of lean gains and strength gains on all lifts.


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    what are your stats??

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    Quote Originally Posted by NATE0406 View Post
    what are your stats??
    6 Ft
    192 LB
    11-12 BF %

    All Natural, when i started I was like 145lb my same height

    Have been training for like 10 years on/off - never off longer than 2 months and have been training very hard the last 2 years.

    Goal is to get to 200-205lb 8% BF

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    dude you shoud throw all thatshit away ang get test way better

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    Hello,

    I am 17 years old 155lbs and have been working out for the past year and seeing no results. I have taken WHEY for over 2 years now and Weight Gainers and have seen no results. I was looking into taking anovars. I was planning on taking 1 a day right before workouts and only doing a half cycle(2 weeks on 2 weeks off). After the cycle i plan on taking something to flush my liver.
    Do u think anovars is the right way to go or no?
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by farhad_039 View Post
    Hello,

    I am 17 years old 155lbs and have been working out for the past year and seeing no results. I have taken WHEY for over 2 years now and Weight Gainers and have seen no results. I was looking into taking anovars. I was planning on taking 1 a day right before workouts and only doing a half cycle(2 weeks on 2 weeks off). After the cycle i plan on taking something to flush my liver.
    Do u think anovars is the right way to go or no?
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    no.. you are too young. and by the way you have to be 18 to even be on this website. see you in a year bro. but before you get banned your problem is your diet. check into that. and by the way you need to start your own thread.

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    you should be fine taking both. not too big a deal. i havent had many runins with PH's. but you will need a pct for this. why not just go with a test cycle though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NATE0406 View Post
    you should be fine taking both. not too big a deal. i havent had many runins with PH's. but you will need a pct for this. why not just go with a test cycle though?
    So you have taken PH's while on gear ?? What were you on ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Determined_Fuk View Post
    So you have taken PH's while on gear ?? What were you on ??
    no bro. i havent taken any PH's before but there is no reason you couldnt take them together. you shouldnt have any adverse affects from it. i have friends who have fun PH's before with other orals and did not affect them negatively. but why dont you just run a test cycle?

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    1St reason being fear of injectable

    2Nd fear of testicular shrinkage



    While I know that can happen on orals too, it seems more predominant with injectables. Now I'm not ruling them out just wanted to run the Var first and see how it went ...

    Is running test alone the most common FIRST cycle ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Determined_Fuk View Post
    1St reason being fear of injectable

    2Nd fear of testicular shrinkage



    While I know that can happen on orals too, it seems more predominant with injectables. Now I'm not ruling them out just wanted to run the Var first and see how it went ...

    Is running test alone the most common FIRST cycle ??
    yup.. but imo var is the only oral that will be fine to run on its own. but you need to kick your fear of needles if you want to use aas.

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    i turn 18 in 7 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by farhad_039 View Post
    i turn 18 in 7 days
    I answered you in this thread, can you please stop posting this same thing again and again? Spam and you will be banned regardless of age.
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

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    Weak stream is one of the symptoms of BPH (enlarged prostate). This minght not have anything to do with your weak stream, but what I do know is that it is not recommended for men to take PH or AAS (not sure if there are exceptions, but I think most, if not all, can aggravate an enlarged prostated condition. I don't know if they can 'cause' it though? Someone?

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    Determined, I"m interested in following your path of progres re: PH or PH and var or test.

    Right now I"m taking Halodrol (started a cple days ago) and 6-oxo and am planning to add some tongkat ali 50x extract. Haven't decided if I'm gonna stack the tongkat yet (I was taking it for 1 1/2 weeks after a 2 week break following usage of only that for 6 weeks). I also have a bottle of novedex xt and I"m looking at using anavar as well. I'm planning on taking a break in like a month, won't start the anavar until then. Depending on how the Halodrol works for me I might stack that or use the 50x extract of tongkat (I like that at high doses).

    Like you I've never used steroids before, but I'm older than you and am still in the process of body recomposition (re: fat reduction, lean muscle addition)

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    I was taking Methyl 1-D when I started my cycle. Did not effect me in the least. I thought it worked fairly well but nothing like good old fashion gear. Don't sweat it bro

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    I ALWAYS have a strong stream, so I'm just trying to determine if the PH can cause my Prostate to Swell and hence the recent weak stream.

    Or could it be I have so much creatine malate in my system that it is causing some stress on my system, I'm guessing it is most likely the PHs as they have a direct impact on the HPTA

    If that is the case I'll probably discontinue it ASAP as I don't know if simply adding Saw Palmeto would help me deal with this side (or if that is even a valuable option to consider)
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    I use Beta Sisosterol, I think that's the (or an) active ingredient in Saw Palmeto but it doesn't work as well as I had hoped/expected and I take ~2x the recommended dose.

    U might need a doctor or someone who really knows what they are talking about to determine what is behind this symptom and the appropriate step(s) to take.

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