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    First Cycle

    Ok so I made up my mind. Im going for a First Cycle. It will be Test/enanthate for 12 weeks at 400-500 wk. I have not decided yet. Also running Dbol for 5 weeks at 30mg week. My PCT will be Nolvadex 40 40 20 20.

    What Kind of Gains should I make off of this?
    I am 25 years old
    230 lbs BF around 15-18% Guesstamite

    any other tips or such would be apprieciated.

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    why is your bf so high and what goal are you attempting to obtain during this cycle?

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    im a strong advocate for clomid during pct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmg View Post
    why is your bf so high and what goal are you attempting to obtain during this cycle?
    I hope its not to look like that dude in your avatar, Ace. There's way too many factors invloved to predict your gains. Diet smart, train hard and be patient... you'll be satisfied. Good luck.

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    Or rock some HGH IMO

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    If thats you on the picture, I can say for sure that your BF is no way near 15-18%

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    Quote Originally Posted by crawdaddy View Post
    I hope its not to look like that dude in your avatar, Ace. There's way too many factors invloved to predict your gains. Diet smart, train hard and be patient... you'll be satisfied. Good luck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Romme1 View Post
    If thats you on the picture, I can say for sure that your BF is no way near 15-18%
    that is him in his avy

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    results will be alot better if start eating better

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    i don't know if this is true for everyone but it has been consistent with most poeple i have talked to that have taken TEST E, and has happened to me; its very painful at the injection site for atleast a few days afterward, your first time at any site you are going to get some redness that looks jsut like a sunburn, the following injections at the same site, there should not be any redness, your very first injection you are going to have the "test fever" probably the second or third day after the very first injection, however i have also been told test prop is substantially less painful, just something to consider

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like to workout View Post
    i don't know if this is true for everyone but it has been consistent with most poeple i have talked to that have taken TEST E, and has happened to me; its very painful at the injection site for atleast a few days afterward, your first time at any site you are going to get some redness that looks jsut like a sunburn, the following injections at the same site, there should not be any redness, your very first injection you are going to have the "test fever" probably the second or third day after the very first injection, however i have also been told test prop is substantially less painful, just something to consider

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like to workout View Post
    i don't know if this is true for everyone but it has been consistent with most poeple i have talked to that have taken TEST E, and has happened to me; its very painful at the injection site for atleast a few days afterward, your first time at any site you are going to get some redness that looks jsut like a sunburn, the following injections at the same site, there should not be any redness, your very first injection you are going to have the "test fever" probably the second or third day after the very first injection, however i have also been told test prop is substantially less painful, just something to consider
    u need to get back to the research! u r totally off bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like to workout View Post
    i don't know if this is true for everyone but it has been consistent with most poeple i have talked to that have taken TEST E, and has happened to me; its very painful at the injection site for atleast a few days afterward, your first time at any site you are going to get some redness that looks jsut like a sunburn, the following injections at the same site, there should not be any redness, your very first injection you are going to have the "test fever" probably the second or third day after the very first injection, however i have also been told test prop is substantially less painful, just something to consider
    Really? I'm glad someone knows what they're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like to workout View Post
    i don't know if this is true for everyone but it has been consistent with most poeple i have talked to that have taken TEST E, and has happened to me; its very painful at the injection site for atleast a few days afterward, your first time at any site you are going to get some redness that looks jsut like a sunburn, the following injections at the same site, there should not be any redness, your very first injection you are going to have the "test fever" probably the second or third day after the very first injection, however i have also been told test prop is substantially less painful, just something to consider
    Nope, you have it backwards!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcePowerZ View Post
    Ok so I made up my mind. Im going for a First Cycle. It will be Test/enanthate for 12 weeks at 400-500 wk. I have not decided yet. Also running Dbol for 5 weeks at 30mg week. My PCT will be Nolvadex 40 40 20 20.

    What Kind of Gains should I make off of this?
    I am 25 years old
    230 lbs BF around 15-18% Guesstamite

    any other tips or such would be apprieciated.
    If that is you in your avy you are in the 20% and up in BF.
    At 230lbs. you should run 40 mg ED of dbol,, 500 of Test E PW and add clomid to your PCT.
    What about your diet? What is your goal?

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    my diet is good for the past 6 months i just got back on it after a while off in the gym. I usually am alot more cut than this but i just finished Bulking without the roids. Everyone tells me to go strait test and nothing more but im considering dbol and more than likely will use it to start. Im looking to add about 15 lbs of solid muscle and no my bf is not in the 20% plus range even though i may look alittle chunky i am solid mass just a little layer fat from my bulking I whent from 170 to 230 in 2 years aproximate. And I will not use clomid on this small cycle seeings how from my pro friends saying it is hard on the system with sides just to go with nolv.

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    Also I am a training for pro wrestling and have been since i was 18 and i am 25 now. so Size is a must for me.

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    bench press 420 lbs 5x DB curl 95lbs 10x deadlift 600lbs and squats 480 20x

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    Day1
    Chest=(3 Sets each)
    1.Machine Bench Press, 2.(DB)Press, 3.Dips

    Back-(3Sets each)
    1.Lat Pulls, 2. (DB)Rows, 3.Cable Rows

    Triceps(2Sets each)
    1.Tricep Press, 2. (DB)Kickback

    Biceps-(2Sets each)
    1.Machine Curl, 2. Hammer Curl

    Abs-
    Decline Crunch, LegLifts



    Day2
    Run/Bike 3-6 Miles
    Quads (squats)3 Sets (50-100 Reps)
    Calves (15min) Jump Rope


    Day3
    Shoulders-(3Heavy Sets)
    1.Machine or (DB) Press
    2.Traps-(3Heavy Sets) Shrugs
    3.Triceps-(3Quick Pump Sets) Cable Pushdowns
    4.Biceps-(3Quick Pump Sets) Concentration Curls
    5.Abs-Machine Crunch, LegLifts


    day4.
    Run/Bike 3-6 Miles
    Quads-3x Sets 50-100 reps
    Calves-15min Jump rope

    day5.
    Chest-3Super Sets of each reps 10-20
    1.Incline Bench Press, 2.Machine Fly's, 3.Pullovers
    Back-(3sets of giant sets)
    1.Cable Rows, 2. Hammer Lat Pulldowns, 3. (DB) Rows
    Triceps-(3quick pump sets)
    1.Cable Machine Overhead Press
    Biceps-(3quick pump sets)
    1.Preacher Curls

    Day6.
    Run/Bike 3-6 miles
    Quads-3x 50-100 reps (squats)
    Calves-15 min Jump Rope


    Day7.

    Rest or Run

    My Daily food consumption is

    Egg whites
    Oatmeal
    Chicken Breast
    Carrots
    Popcorn
    LeanBeaf

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcePowerZ View Post
    bench press 420 lbs 5x DB curl 95lbs 10x deadlift 600lbs and squats 480 20x

    Those are impressive numbers. But there is no way your under 20%. If I was you I would use the dbol as a kick start. I would definitely use clomid for pct. Clomid and Nolva are 2 different things and you need both.

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    30 mg a week of dbol is to little. go 30 mg a day. since the dbol life is very short.

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    100 squats 3x a week seems a bit much. Don't be scared of the clomid... unless you like big man boobies... an AI like L-dex won't hurt either
    Last edited by PrisonGuy; 06-26-2008 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrisonGuy View Post
    100 squats 3x a week seems a bit much. Don't be scared of the clomid... unless you like big man boobies... an AI like L-dex won't hurt either
    nolva prevents man boobies clomid is strictly for recovery!

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