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06-26-2008, 11:32 PM #41Banned
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all i got to say is props for being pretty cut im not gunna talk shit on your physiqe cause thats pretty stupid but throw in forearm workouts . good luck man . man up put down that extreme tren and pick up a sryinge
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06-26-2008, 11:33 PM #42Banned
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06-27-2008, 07:51 AM #43Member
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Mbuffguy..whats your bf percentage? and how old r u?
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06-27-2008, 03:48 PM #44Banned
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18y/o bf about 21-23
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06-27-2008, 08:38 PM #45
mbuffguy. sincerly the only real help full advice is make sure you give yourself plenty of time to drop the weight. in all honesty cut the weight now. drop down to 12%bf so you can see whats slacking then just work on them. i read a study you build the most muscle at 10-12%bf. im ganna stay with that right now as im about 251 at 11%bf.
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06-28-2008, 12:53 PM #46Banned
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Aug-nov im gunna cut with on/off clen cycles but no gear then imjumping on a cycle in dec
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06-28-2008, 08:14 PM #47Banned
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about shutting down your natural test production for life if you cycle when your 18 - this is honestly a scare tactic and exaggerated. If you do a small cycle with a solid pct you'll more than likely be fine. Someone show me a link to a study that absolutely gurantees that steroids will permanently screw with your test levels if you take them when you are 18 - thats right, there are none.
Im not advocating steroids for teens. But im just saying, when i was 18 i did a cycle of Test E with a strong PCT, and i was still as horny as ever when i got off. The only thing it can do is prematurely close your growth plates, but the key word is possibly. Personally i still grew an inch in height after i first injected, and it didnt bother me anyway since i was 6'1 when i started.
And honestly i can understand his reasoning. For me it was much more impressive to be big and muscular and ripped when i was 18-21, you stand out in a crowd, especially if you were as tall as me. Anyone can be huge at 28.
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06-28-2008, 09:04 PM #48
IMO i would say you're an idiot - no 18 yr old has no business doing steroids PERIOD!!!
he has all ready said that he KNOWS it could shut down his natural production and is seriously contemplating doing it. What he also needs to KNOW is that it can also shut down his growth plates, which males do not stop fully growing until the age of 25, so he may also cut himself short by a good 6" - 8" in height as well.
At the age of 23 I went from 5'9" to 6'1"
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06-28-2008, 09:17 PM #49
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06-28-2008, 09:18 PM #50
There are studies that show that steroids accelerate the thickening of the left ventricular wall. One study found that 43% of elite drug free resistance-trained athletes had thickening beyond the normal range while 100% of elite bodybuilders had the thickening beyond the normal range. Why start this at such a young age. Also at age 18 young men are know to grow a couple for inches between 18-21. I know I did. Adolescents at that age can have self esteem issues and depression issues with the up and downs of test levels. There are studies.
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06-28-2008, 09:22 PM #51
yes, most will say possible side effects; and just because it didn't happen to you does not mean that this kid will make it through without experiencing those possible side effects. honestly what should be this kids biggest concern right now is getting is diet down 100%, especially if he wants to go pro.
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06-28-2008, 09:30 PM #52Member
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Let's see you want to close your plates and shut your test down all for a month
of fame from being on juice.
What's your rush?..you wanna be a pro..then you better have some patience.
It makes no sense to screw your genetic gift just for an early start ...where if you wait
you will be bigger when the time is right.
It could be the difference between 1st place and last place. So go ahead and blow it
dude.
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06-28-2008, 09:47 PM #53
so guys what will happen say if you do steriods and when your done your body just donest make test anymore? what does that do to your body?
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06-28-2008, 09:58 PM #54Member
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No test means estrogen..you will turn into a women with breasts and the works
you will start to cry when the news comes on.
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06-28-2008, 10:01 PM #55
oh god! lol that would SUCK! does that happen very offten?
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06-28-2008, 10:13 PM #56Member
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Not really the body senses low test and will signal to create more test.
But after a good hard cycle of juice this may take a while..so in the meantime
you get depressed, lack of focus, no confidence, body turns more fiminine..
that's why pct's are important..you have to kick the nuts back in ASAP!
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06-28-2008, 10:49 PM #57
ya bro im no one to judge someone that wants to start early but you 18 now. wait a good year. dont take it easy on the cycles if you want to go pro. please post pics so we can help u out.
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