First Stack

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 05:01 PM

Hey all, I'm a newbie to the site. Just wanted some input on this first stack. I've done a couple of cycles of just test in the past. It was the only thing I could get my hands on at the time. Now I've moved up to bigger and better gear. Here's what I got and I'm just looking for any input on additional gear for during the cycle and PCT. I just wanna put on about 15 more lbs. Any extra help is appreciated. Thanks!

30 yrs old In the gym since 17, along with many sports.
5'10" 190 lbs
BF%--??

weeks 1-4 30mg ED D bol
weeks 1-10 250 mg Sust
weeks 1-10 200 mg Tes Cyp
PCT- Nolva

**xXDevilDogXx** · 06-24-2008, 05:16 PM

The sust i can get is so much more expensive than getting just plain old test. Why not try something other than sust like some EQ or even some deca ?

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 05:18 PM

I have this gear already and I'm over sea's right now and don't know how easy I'll be able to get anything else.

**xXDevilDogXx** · 06-24-2008, 05:20 PM

OK, cool, not busting on ya. Just curious.

Were you planning on shooting Cyp on monday and sust on thurs or divide the shots into two and do half of both on monday and half of both on thurs?

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 05:22 PM

I'm wondering what will be the best to do. Which would be the best?

**xXDevilDogXx** · 06-24-2008, 05:27 PM

Your probably better splitting the doses in two and doing both on each shot day. But it would be an interesting experiment for someone who knows how their body reacts to sust and cyp to run it that way.

The cyp at 200mgs once a week is almost like a high HRT dose, so the sust would be an extra kick at the end of the week.

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 05:30 PM

So your saying do a shot of half sus/ half cyp on mon and thurs?

**Lemonada8** · 06-24-2008, 07:14 PM

10 weeks of cyp is very short, its a super long ester, and it wont kick in for about 6 weeks....

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 07:14 PM

Any other thoughts out there for me?

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 07:15 PM

The Sust and d bol won't help with that Lemonada?

**Lemonada8** · 06-24-2008, 07:51 PM

yeah it would or if yoy can extend for another 2 weeks

**edmen2** · 06-24-2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

I have this gear already and I'm over sea's right now and don't know how easy I'll be able to get anything else.

depending on where u r it may be easy for u to obtain gear!

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 09:25 PM

Do I really need any more gear to just put on 15 lbs with the gear I got?

**Amorphic** · 06-24-2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

Hey all, I'm a newbie to the site. Just wanted some input on this first stack. I've done a couple of cycles of just test in the past. It was the only thing I could get my hands on at the time. Now I've moved up to bigger and better gear. Here's what I got and I'm just looking for any input on additional gear for during the cycle and PCT. I just wanna put on about 15 more lbs. Any extra help is appreciated. Thanks!

30 yrs old In the gym since 17, along with many sports.
5'10" 190 lbs
BF%--??

weeks 1-4 30mg ED D bol
weeks 1-10 250 mg Sust
weeks 1-10 200 mg Tes Cyp
PCT- Nolva

meh.

how about this:

1-4 40mgs dbol ed
1-12 test cyp 500mgs/ed

pct

done.

**edmen2** · 06-24-2008, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

Do I really need any more gear to just put on 15 lbs with the gear I got?

not really its just that sus and test cyp are both testosterone . with the different esters in sus it will be harder to keep ur levels stable but it can be done.

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by edmen2

not really its just that sus and test cyp are both testosterone. with the different esters in sus it will be harder to keep ur levels stable but it can be done.

I was going to do like DevilDog suggested and shoot twice a week with a half Sus/ half Cyp shot. Along with the D bol and see how that goes.

**edmen2** · 06-24-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

I was going to do like DevilDog suggested and shoot twice a week with a half Sus/ half Cyp shot. Along with the D bol and see how that goes.

that will work but i like to shoot sus at least eod because of the prop ester. but it will work the way ur saying u just may get a little bacne cause levels are less stable.

**T_Own** · 06-24-2008, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

I have this gear already and I'm over sea's right now and don't know how easy I'll be able to get anything else.

probably very easy. you can walk into pharmacies in mexico and find pharmacy grade american steroids on sale otc.

what you have would probably be good enough, but why run so many kinds of test? just the cyp for ~12 weeks would probably be fine. higher dosage though

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by edmen2

that will work but i like to shoot sus at least eod because of the prop ester. but it will work the way ur saying u just may get a little bacne cause levels are less stable.

This is my first time with sus so we'll see how it goes. Do you think just Nolva is good enough for a PCT? I have some otc Novedex also, but I've read on here that it isn't good. Any thoughts on that?

**MayhemMan** · 06-24-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by T_Own

probably very easy. you can walk into pharmacies in mexico and find pharmacy grade american steroids on sale otc.

what you have would probably be good enough, but why run so many kinds of test? just the cyp for ~12 weeks would probably be fine. higher dosage though

That's true T Own, but I'm in the middle of the dessert. Not around any towns.

**edmen2** · 06-24-2008, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by MayhemMan

This is my first time with sus so we'll see how it goes. Do you think just Nolva is good enough for a PCT? I have some otc Novedex also, but I've read on here that it isn't good. Any thoughts on that?

ive never had the need for nolva i always had it on hand in case gyno symptoms appeared. i have a box here about 6 yrs old. for pct u definately need clomid. some people run both for pct but ive never needed more than clomid and i've done some long cycles.