frontloading test

[freakon]

I read the sticky on the frontloading of test e and have a few questions that i would like to ask before i start my second cycle. normally if i were to run a deca and test cycle it would be 12/14 wk cycle. But because of frontloading do i still run the test an additional 2 wks after my last shot of deca? I also have several wks worth of dbol left from my previous cycle can i run that along with the test if i frontload. thanks

[NATE0406]

yes you still need to run the test past the deca . fronloading does not effect stop times. and yes you can run the dbol if you want to .

[magic32]

Frontloading augments the rate at which you achieve steady-state concentrations, which has virtually nothing to do with the variables you presented. Therefore regardless of frontloading, Test should still outrun Deca for the same reason; similarly a Dbol kickstart will provide the same effect...so "yes" to both questions.

BEAT ME TO IT NATE!!!

[freakon]

thanks guys for the responses! i forgot to ask.... i normally run my test every monday and thurs at 250mg doses when i frontload will the first and second inject be seperated by longer days or do i just run the same schedule? and can the deca @ 200mg each shot be run in the same syring as the test? thanks

[jc95605]

same schedule at 500mgs each instead of 250mgs. Frontloading is basically doubling your first week's test intake.

[jsinur7]

they say front load EQ too... does that mean double the first 2 weeks doses of eq? i dont gt the whole frontloading thing... why is it called frontloading instead of just making the cycle 2 weeks longer? i read other posts on it and thats all it sounds like to me... what am i missing?

[jc95605]

Frontloading you basically just double the dose the FIRST week. By doing that it kicks in alot quicker than normal. For example, test e. Normally test e get to 96% effectiveness on wk 5, when you frontload it you'll be at 96% at wk 2. See my point?

[NATE0406]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ding+explained
read this. i will also bump this thread.

[jc95605]

damnit nate i was looking for that.

[jc95605]

Frontloading motives and benefits explained.
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First and foremost, this is some absolutely 3rd grade writing. If someone will unfu(k my plight and make it clear and flowing, I'll edit it and update it. I'm TIRED.

I’m surprised there isn’t a sticky on frontloading, and if there is one, why does it seem like it’s never read.

Below are the amounts released in a week when not frontloading

250mg x 2 of enanthate

Week 1 195 39%
Week 2 336 67%
Week 3 406 81%
Week 4 447 89%
Week 5 458 92%
Week 6 466 93%
Week 7 471 94%
Week 8 473 95%


This ramping up process is because you are ADDING the remaining mg that hasn't expired from the last dosage to the next one ... which gradually builds up to a peak around week 7 or 8. Thus, you start getting the full INTENDED effect around that time. You can circumvent this WHOLE ramp up process and frontload. You're goal isn't related to what you inject weekly per se, it's how many ACTIVE mg there are in your body per day. THAT is the important number.

This is the amount you get per week if you DO frontload, and take double your dosage during the first week.

Week 1 394 79%
Week 2 475 95%
Week 3 475 95%
Week 4 475 95%
Week 5 475 95%
Week 6 475 95%
Week 7 475 95%
Week 8 475 95%


All this does is circumvent the lag time in building your weekly release value up to your target usage. This doesn't accelerate the lag of your body to start responding to it. For instance, EQ amongst other things increases RBC, maybe that's part of what takes it a while to fully kick in... but who cares about that, why not just get the full intended volume up to a steady level and go from there?

Check out the “roid calculator”. Experiment on there with different dosages, and frontloading. Set up your normal cycle on there, and see what your residual is on week 8 BEFORE you inject. Essentially, ADD that to 500mg... thats the amount of MG you need in your body to get the daily release value you're targeting.

minimizes the anxious time of waiting for it to kick in and figure out if it’s real or not.


http://www.roidcalc.com/

Remember, there are two factors that control your physical response to the drugs.

1. The daily release/active value...
2. Time for your body to start responding to it.

First, if you take Test-prop, it doesn’t affect you instantly... it takes a little while to kick in, despite its instant bio availability.

On top of that, mg per mg, enanthate is weaker, the ester takes up a greater amount of space/weight, so it's actually about 10% less than prop when considering that factor.

What would be nice is an excel spreadsheet with the formulas imbedded with locked fields for all but the necessary cells for changing the mg and half life. I would definitely make sure it was reflective of Hookers point, which is ACTIVE mg... That's an interesting subject too. :-) If he'd write a post about it… hint hint, nudge nudge.

People generally add a few weeks to cycle length when running long esters so that you actually get MORE weeks AT the intended dosage rather than spending the majority of the time building up to the peak just before quitting. The problem with this in my book is that a week with an abnormal HTPA and atrophying nuts needs damned well to be producing gains. It’s a simple decision, if I’m taking risks, I want rewards.

There i forgot i saved it. Hope this helps.

[NATE0406]

damnit nate i was looking for that.

haha your kung fu is no match...

[jsinur7]

thats actually the thread that confused me... cause he says the benefits, but not what it is... i get it now... double for the first week, then go normal... thanks guys

[jsinur7]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ding+explained
read this. i will also bump this thread.

thanls, that one is way better and easier to understand..

[jc95605]

thanks alot jsinur, didn't need that. Now Nate is gonna think hes better.

[jsinur7]

thanks alot jsinur, didn't need that. Now Nate is gonna think hes better.

comeon now... regardless of what i say he "knows" he's better... we all do in our own world... lol...