winni only

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:09 AM

I was gonna run winni only. What is a moderate dosage and how long should it be ran?

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:15 AM

shouldnt be ran at all... u will not get whaT U R EXPECTING FROM THIS, u will only get a disfuctional dick, little muscle convered with fat still, and a bad temper kus u wasted ur money! EVERY CYCLE OF WINNI MUST CONTAIN TEST! no way to avoid it

**redz** · 07-04-2008, 10:16 AM

You should take winny too long it is very harsh on your liver. Also Test should be the base of pretty much all cycles. Winny should not be run more than 6 weeks. Doses for men seem to be in the 50-100mg ed range.

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:18 AM

Im takin now test low 200/wk and 40dbol. Its a friend that hates needles and wants to cut up. Would a short 4 week winni shut you down?

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-04-2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ripdx

Im takin now test low 200/wk and 40dbol. Its a friend that hates needles and wants to cut up. Would a short 4 week winni shut you down?

#1 - please post stats, age,

#2 - winni will NOT cut you up

#3 - 4weeks of winni only is crap

#4 - see #1

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:20 AM

yes, and it wont cut him up either, kus winni doesnt burn fat, try clen

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-04-2008, 10:21 AM

1 more thing guys..we dont give out advice without stats..we need stats so we can give proper advice

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:22 AM

even if were telling him not to?

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:23 AM

I dont have his stats. anyway thanks guys appreciate it

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:24 AM

tell ur friend, diet and cardio is much more effective then winni

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:26 AM

ya some people want the easy way out

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-04-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

even if were telling him not to?

but telling him not to do winni b/c he wants to cut up and try clen ..yes thats giving him advice on not to do that, but do this..need stats..he could be a 16yr old over weight fat kid and you told him to use clen..so then we got a dead fat kid from a heart attack on our hands

its ok bulldog..dont sweat it..but at least now u know brother

lol

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:30 AM

Here emilio if it will make you happy....Hes about 6ft 230 prob around 18%bf 25yrs old..I would never tell anyone too young that would hurt them in the long run..Thats why i asked for advice.....Thanks guys for all

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:32 AM

he doesnt need steroids to lose weight, thats easily..tell him to push away in the kitchen and hop on that treadmill

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-04-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ripdx

Here emilio if it will make you happy....Hes about 6ft 230 prob around 18%bf 25yrs old..I would never tell anyone too young that would hurt them in the long run..Thats why i asked for advice.....Thanks guys for all

not that it makes me happy, its the rules...but you would be surprised on the amount of young kids that come in here and try to get info on what to do..hang around for a little while and you will see yourself...ive seen ppl ask for advice and when they give their stats they say something like

17yrs old, been working out for 2 weeks, 25% Bf

**Bulldog1115** · 07-04-2008, 10:35 AM

^^ so true

**Emilio_Rebenga** · 07-04-2008, 10:36 AM

and 230lbs @ 18% BF he has to check his diet and hit up the cardio

drop the BF% b/c thats pretty high..diet and cardio is the key before he jumps on anything..and winni will not cut him up..thats a misconception that ppl have about it

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:36 AM

Ya I wasnt trying to burn you...Some people are too lazy to actuall research stuff on their own thats y im on here researching winni cycles for him...Im not very familiar with cutting agents

**Ripdx** · 07-04-2008, 10:39 AM

Im out.... happy 4th

**TOOBAD** · 07-05-2008, 09:46 AM

I can tell you from experience that winny only cycles work (for me anyways). I take a very low dose (20mg./ed) and I get great gains, both strength and size. I am one who can not take test with any other substances. My blood pressure goes up on test and adding something else like winny or tbol causes me to go in to hypertension.

The only bad thing about winny (with or without test) is that it causes your tendons to feel "dried" up and you tend to always feel like your joints are hurting. Its not anything a little ibuprofen won't take care of.

One more thing, I get crazy, mad hard-ons on winny only cycles. I mean, my wife swears up and down I get at least an inch or so bigger! Another thing is that it does not burn fat! I gain quite a bit just on 20mg. ed. I am sure if my diet was cleaner I would loose some fat but I am not trying to do that.

My point is this, everyone reacts differently to different medications. I would bet that there are people on this forum, possibly on this paticular thread, that have never done a winny only cycle. But because "everyone" says don't do it, they are quick to tell you the same thing. I am not suggesting you do it, I am just saying that it works really good for me and it is cheap!

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 06:19 PM

toobad ur an assclown, u dont tell newbies that winni only is good .. kus it isnt... u just said u dont lose any bodyfat, what is the point of doing winni, i doubt ur gains are good at all!

PT · 07-05-2008, 06:21 PM

winny has been run alone by many athlets including ben johnson. your not going to get huge off it or have great gains but it can be done and has been done

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 06:25 PM

ben johnson took this cycle 5mg/d dbols , 1000mcg b12 , winni 40mg/d and 4iu gh he only got busted for winni kus it was the liquid which stays in ur system for 2 months , kus the dbols were outta his system and there was no test for gh

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 06:26 PM

he never took winstrol alone

PT · 07-05-2008, 06:28 PM

irrelevent, i have as well as many others and my gains were never the best but my strength went up. i agree its not the best cycle but all im saying is that is can and has been done

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 06:30 PM

of course its been done ...alot of things have been done, but that doesnt mean it correct

PT · 07-05-2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

ben johnson took this cycle 5mg/d dbols , 1000mcg b12 , winni 40mg/d and 4iu gh he only got busted for winni kus it was the liquid which stays in ur system for 2 months , kus the dbols were outta his system and there was no test for gh

many athlets shoot b-12 which is legal and 5mgs of d-bol is about useless

**jc95605** · 07-05-2008, 06:35 PM

agreed. My friend swears by winnie and says it DOES burn fat. I don't believe he lied to me, lol.

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 06:37 PM

^^well how does he look?

**jc95605** · 07-05-2008, 06:41 PM

while on cycle hard. He looks pretty cut. That doesn't mean winnie burns fat, it just means the muscle he has is hard. I'm gonna ask him how he did it. But i do know clen works pretty good and its fairly cheap.

**TOOBAD** · 07-05-2008, 07:33 PM

Bulldog, lick my balls bi+@H! Your probably the one that I said has absolutely no experience with a winny only cycle! Don't tell me my gains are not good, I am speaking from personal experience. If you think your diet doesn't determine your gains with ANY steroid then you truely are an idiot! I am currently on a winny only cycle and have gained about 10 pounds and i am going on week 3....you moron!

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

toobad ur an assclown, u dont tell newbies that winni only is good .. kus it isnt... u just said u dont lose any bodyfat, what is the point of doing winni, i doubt ur gains are good at all!

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 09:44 PM

"I gain quite a bit just on 20mg. ed. I am sure if my diet was cleaner I would loose some fat but I am not trying to do that."

So TOOBAD, ur gains are great? does fat gains count as great when ur on WINSTROL !?

**T_Own** · 07-05-2008, 09:50 PM

how tempermental he is..

didn't barry bonds use winstrol ? idk about alone, but i thought thats what he "allegedly" used

oh yeah, and very irrelevant, but race horses get shot with winstrol and you know how ripped they are!

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 09:54 PM

barry did u winstrol along with test cyp... and i dont think horse breeders really care if there horses can have the ability to pop solid stiffies!

**jc95605** · 07-05-2008, 09:56 PM

Race horse juice on winnie. Hmm....I never knew that.

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 09:57 PM

yah that brown horse or w.e got caught with winni

**T_Own** · 07-05-2008, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

barry did u winstrol along with test cyp... and i dont think horse breeders really care if there horses can have the ability to pop solid stiffies!

uhh YEAH THEY DO. retired race horses have the best lives ever. sit in a nice ass barn and bone as many women horses as they can. just a few days ago they said smarty jones had about 100 "girl friends". they try to breed them as much as possible for the good genes

and big brown isn't the only one, and he didn't get "caught" its legal in like 38 states that allow horse races. NY was not one of them, which is why they discontinued it before the belmont

wow thats off topic

**Bulldog1115** · 07-05-2008, 10:03 PM

^^^lmao thats fuccking hilarous!!!

**cfiler** · 07-06-2008, 01:42 AM

I'd just like to mention that your friend should register on this forum. Then he can read the Educational thread, and afterwards make his own decision on if he's ready for a cycle & what type of cycle would suit him best.

He needs to know all the potencial gains and side-effects of these compounds before being able to make a educated decision.

PT · 07-06-2008, 03:00 AM

listen up everyone. we are here to debate and learn so let please keep the insults to the pm's because there are at least 500 guests viewing this forum at all times and we dont want to scare them away. if they keep seeing fights and people getting insulted and put down do you really think there going to join and take a chance of that happening to them? hell no they wont. our goal is to expand as much as possible so i say again, PLEASE do not insult members in the open forum. we debate here not argue. thank you for understanding