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    CharlieOnHisWay is offline New Member
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    1st cycle - sustanon and andriol

    Looking to start first cycle. I’m a Caucasian male living in Vietnam.

    I'm 27 years old. I've been weight training for 3 years. I've played high level contact sport from a junior level up until now and have always been physically active. I average 3-4 weights sessions per week and 2 cardio. I play tennis at least once per week.

    I'm 6"1 and 87kgs (appprox. 190lbs). I'm borderline hard gainer, made more difficult by the quality of food available in Vietnam. My diet is high in carbs and I eat rice 2-3 times per day. I squeeze in a lot of tuna as it’s readily accessible. I take both protein powder and BSN NO-xplode. I will stop NO-xplode during cycle for fear of bloat (at least after a couple of weeks).

    I'm looking at a 10 week cycle. I want to bulk.

    Proposed (based on ready availability):
    Weeks 1-10: Sustanon 250 shot, 1mL twice weekly.
    Weeks 1-10: Andriol testcaps, 240mg per day (6 caps daily with food).

    Nolvadex - I have on hand and will use if necessary.

    Clomid for 3 week PCT after last Sustanon shot:
    Day 1 – 300mg
    Day 2 – 12 – 100mg
    Day 13 – 21 – 50mg

    Any thoughts on this as a first cycle?

    Should D-bol oral be used for weeks 1-4 to kick start, or should just run with Andriol testcaps over 10 weeks (or less)? D-bol is much harder for me to get.

    I read mixed reports on the Organon andriol testocaps – some reports recommend 2 caps per day for a first time user, others 8. For a first time cycle, I’m looking at 6.

    I enjoy a social beer on Fri/Sat nights – any problems with this when on cycle?

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    Bulldog1115 is offline Member
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    well not to much beer i guess, no1 says u cant enjoy urself, just stay with limits, its not like ur doing a show or something. i would toss those anidrol caps out the window if u can get some dbols!

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    sust

    EOD with the sust Bro...and more like 500mg a week

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    clomid

    the clomid should start when the test stops....with prop I believe 14 days after thelast sust shot would be best.....there are a few different esters in sust so it is hard to pinpoint a PCT start time with it....

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    Sust is supposed to be 3wks. between last shot and starting pct.

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