Planned out my second and third cycles, tell me what you think

[Michael Scott]

Right now I'm running prop at 525mg a week for 10-12 weeks


2nd cycle
500mg Test-E 1-12
300mg Deca 1-10 (should I run 300 or 400 of Deca ?)


3rd cycle
75mg ED Prop 1-10
50mg ED Tren Ace 1-8 or 2-10


I'll be running them both as bulking cycles. Want to put on as much mass as possible

Of course I'll wait for a long enough time between the cycles. Any suggestions or criticism ? PCT will consist of mostly Nolva (40/40/20/20)

[DS21]

I would go with 400mgs deca . I would also go wk 1-8 with the tren . Keep letro on hand during cycle and add an AI to your pct.

[Michael Scott]

I forgot to mention that I'm really worried about hair loss on Tren . I'm not prone to MPB but I still heard that your hairline will take a really bad hit on Tren even if you're prone to MPB, is that true ? If so I wouldn't run it.

[HURRICANE3500]

I forgot to mention that I'm really worried about hair loss on Tren. I'm not prone to MPB but I still heard that your hairline will take a really bad hit on Tren even if you're prone to MPB, is that true ? If so I wouldn't run it.

tren is the worst riod on hair imo .. if u worried bout sheading stay away..u dont need it to get big imo.. others might disagree

[stpete]

Right now I'm running prop at 525mg a week for 10-12 weeks


2nd cycle
500mg Test-E 1-12
300mg Deca 1-10 (should I run 300 or 400 of Deca ?)


3rd cycle
75mg ED Prop 1-10
50mg ED Tren Ace 1-8 or 2-10


I'll be running them both as bulking cycles. Want to put on as much mass as possible

Of course I'll wait for a long enough time between the cycles. Any suggestions or criticism ? PCT will consist of mostly Nolva (40/40/20/20)

To be honest man, you're not even sure about your current cycle. 10-12 weeks?? You should have this planned out from the beginning above anything else.
2nd cycle doesn't look too bad, but your 3rd is off the hook. Are you going to combine the tren and prop in one injection and shoot ed for 10 weeks? Kudos to you. What's your tren experience like?
Run your test longer than the tren. At least 2 weeks imo.

[Michael Scott]

To be honest man, you're not even sure about your current cycle. 10-12 weeks?? You should have this planned out from the beginning above anything else.
2nd cycle doesn't look too bad, but your 3rd is off the hook. Are you going to combine the tren and prop in one injection and shoot ed for 10 weeks? Kudos to you. What's your tren experience like?
Run your test longer than the tren. At least 2 weeks imo.

Actually I did plan it out for 12 weeks, but right before I started I noticed everybody only running prop for 8-10 weeks, and I searched around and I saw no reason other than the annoyance of EOD or ED injections for why people don't run prop 12 weeks. So I decided to see what happens, if I'm at 10 weeks and decide the pain is too much I'll stop, but if not i'll keep going. Anyways I don't see how it's a big deal either way.

I've never run Tren before, but if I do I'll definitely shoot ED to avoid as many sides as possible. But like I said before I can't deal with hair loss, so I'm re thinking that third cycle. Thanks for the help.

[Michael Scott]

tren is the worst riod on hair imo .. if u worried bout sheading stay away..u dont need it to get big imo.. others might disagree

What's a good substitute for Tren then ? Something that doesn't bloat you up like the way that Deca does.

[BIG-N-Brazil]

I don't know about a sub. for tren . But i wish i would of never done it because now i want to do it in every cycle. I run 100mg eod and my sides were tolerable. No real hair loss.......Guess its diff with everyone but all in all Tren is well worth it to me.

[stpete]

I can't help with the hair loss bro cause i choose to be bald, but my friends don't have a problem with it.
I think ed injections depends on the mgs you're shooting. I've never shot ed, but i've also been above the 100mg shot everytime. Things have changed a lot concerning tren since 03. It's your call man.
IMO: 3rd cycle, Test E: Weeks 1-12 @ 600mgs ew. Tren ace: Weeks 4-8 @ 150mgs eod.
The tren might be too much, and i'm always hesitate to recommend it, but if you get some crazy sides that become too much for you just stop the tren. It will be out of your system in 4 days and all will be good.
Anymore questions i'll try to help.

[Chubbosaurus]

tren is the worst riod on hair imo .. if u worried bout sheading stay away..u dont need it to get big imo.. others might disagree

I think it's different for different people. I lost hair almost immediately on Winny but kept it fine on tren .

[Michael Scott]

I can't help with the hair loss bro cause i choose to be bald, but my friends don't have a problem with it.
I think ed injections depends on the mgs you're shooting. I've never shot ed, but i've also been above the 100mg shot everytime. Things have changed a lot concerning tren since 03. It's your call man.
IMO: 3rd cycle, Test E: Weeks 1-12 @ 600mgs ew. Tren ace: Weeks 4-8 @ 150mgs eod.
The tren might be too much, and i'm always hesitate to recommend it, but if you get some crazy sides that become too much for you just stop the tren. It will be out of your system in 4 days and all will be good.
Anymore questions i'll try to help.

I'm running Tren Ace I might as well run Prop along with it since I'll be injecting anyways

[facile]

my hair got thicker on test/tren cycle???, winny gave me some thinning.