switching gear

[Deen54]

right now i am running deca and sus

deca 400/week
sus 500/week

i will run out of sus in 5 weeks...i want to switch to test e.

the test e ...i am getting is 300mg/ml

how would i do the transfer over from sus to test and how much
milligrams should i inject.. i am thinking 500mg but that would mean 1.5 ml?

the deca will be constant 400 mg for 10 weeks.

[NATE0406]

i personally would have started with the test e then switched to the sust. but yes you can switch over, your blood levels are going to go a little crazy but its not that big a deal. if you are wanting to inject 500 mgs then you would have to shoot 1.66 ml per week. i would reconmend just shooting 600 per week to make it easy. your blood levels will already be unstable so uping the dose is fine.

[MercyDog]

1.5 is 450

One week before your last sus shot inject 2ml of t-e, then shoot I'd go 1ml 2times a wk., I know thats 600wk but its easy to read on the barrel and you might want to cut it with something if it gets painfull.

If you want 500mgs. though its 1.66666

[MercyDog]

ok that looked like I copied your post, sorry just bad timing and a coincidence

[smokeyd]

sus pct starts 3 weeks after last shot, so I would front load your test E 3 weeks before you run out of sus, thats prob the best way to keep your levels moderatly stable through this f ed up cycle lol

[JiGGaMaN]

i personally would have started with the test e then switched to the sust. but yes you can switch over, your blood levels are going to go a little crazy but its not that big a deal. if you are wanting to inject 500 mgs then you would have to shoot 1.66 ml per week. i would reconmend just shooting 600 per week to make it easy. your blood levels will already be unstable so uping the dose is fine.

Theoretically, the fluctuation in blood levels will only get a little crazy depending on the dosing schedule.

[Deen54]

Right now as we speak...i injecting 400 mg of deca this past sunday.

I haven't started the sus and I may have the test e before sunday.

If i get the test E before sunday 10 ml

i also will have 14 amps sus...

is it better to start test e before sus or sus before test e?

[MercyDog]

ok give me a minute and I'll work this out for you, use them together

[Deen54]

you mean 1 ml deca 200mg
1 ml sus 250 mg
1 ml test e 300mg

then i have to inject the sus and deca at least twice a week.

there's too much test to mix.

[MercyDog]

Ok heres what I think would work well....................
week 1............(.5ml. test e x 2) and (.5ml sus EOD)
week 2............(.5ml. test e x 2) and (.5ml sus EOD)
week 3............(1ml. test e x 2) and no sus
week 4............"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 5............"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 6............""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""", your out of test-e here
week 7............(.5ml sus EOD)
week 8............(.75ml sus EOD)
week 9............"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 10.........."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 11.........."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 12.........."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 13.........."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 14.........."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
week 15 you should be clean.

I don't know if this is a great idea though I never ran sus. but I'm just trying to do some math. 10ml. is short. Unless you decided to run a 5 on and 5 off first, then run a 14 weeker on the sus. which may even be a better idea. Yea that may be better. I'd get more advice here.

[MercyDog]

the deca 's a given on both so I didn't even put it in there, just try and stay at least 400dec/600 test wk

[MercyDog]

btw that crazy mixup would mean you could mix alot together to get less shots, 1 eod would prob work with all 3 compounds. The more I think about it though seems like 1 short and 1 long cycle would prob. give the best results with what you have, but then again test-e isn't a good short cycle

[MercyDog]

you really need another 10ml of e, and do 2 cycles of 12 weeks

[Deen54]

i'm kinda just looking at the whole thing is testosterone but it's the
esters that screws the timing up.

i was thinking going with the sus all the way to finish...
shoot 300mg test e during the final three weeks of remaining sus.
the test e should start to take effect ...right at the time sus amps are done
then start shooting test e @600mg until done.

deca @400mg 1- 10 weeks
sus250 14amps 2- 7 weeks
test e @300mg 4-7 weeks

then
deca@400mg continued 1-10weeks
test e @600 mg 8-10 weeks

extra test e @ 300mg with 100mg primobolan 11 week done!

[MercyDog]

only thing bad about that is retaining water more at the end

[MercyDog]

It wouldn't be good to start with test-e only at the start either because it takes longer to get rolling. Maybe that wierd cycle I posted would be the best with what you have. The logic was to bring in the test early ie. sus, then trying to be steady in the middle, and finish strong and clean. This is the very reason I don't like sus. sounds great on paper but hard to really work out as of the times. Hell its all test, maybe just cork it all together and fire away

[Deen54]

i think this is one of those times when we have to be creative. lol!

[MercyDog]

yea, I think you know the answers just need to think about it