Dianabol (Dbol)

[RaWRZ0R!]

i dont think you people understand what i am asking, i was only saying what friends had told me i wasnt asking for what NOT to do but more along the lines of what to do! Its all well and good telling me what not to d but i would like help and suggestions on what to take and what cycles to do and where to get the best info on different pct's etc. My goals are probably not as high as what you guys had when you started as I am only looking for small gains and to maintain these gains, i.e. 1 stone (what ever that is in pounds) I have tried strong legal supplement stacks of things such as trib test, zma, creatine, hmb etc but they are no way near enough. Please can i have more suggestions on what to do rather than what not to do

we are saying dont do a dbol only cycle thats what you should do...you should have gotten some test and kick started it with dbols...you would have seen more gains but its your choice ..

[legobricks]

i dont think you people understand what i am asking, i was only saying what friends had told me i wasnt asking for what NOT to do but more along the lines of what to do! Its all well and good telling me what not to d but i would like help and suggestions on what to take and what cycles to do and where to get the best info on different pct's etc. My goals are probably not as high as what you guys had when you started as I am only looking for small gains and to maintain these gains, i.e. 1 stone (what ever that is in pounds) I have tried strong legal supplement stacks of things such as trib test, zma, creatine, hmb etc but they are no way near enough. Please can i have more suggestions on what to do rather than what not to do

Excuse me? You told us starting your first dbol cycle. Now were telling you not too. 14lbs of muscle cannot be achieved by a dbol only cycle. Yeah you could gain a lot of fat/water/muscle "weight" which most if not all will shed off within a month or 2 time frame. Thats why we are telling you to look into different routes. at 168lbs or 12stone how tall are you?

[Branch_w]

i dont think you people understand what i am asking, i was only saying what friends had told me i wasnt asking for what NOT to do but more along the lines of what to do! Its all well and good telling me what not to d but i would like help and suggestions on what to take and what cycles to do and where to get the best info on different pct's etc. My goals are probably not as high as what you guys had when you started as I am only looking for small gains and to maintain these gains, i.e. 1 stone (what ever that is in pounds) I have tried strong legal supplement stacks of things such as trib test, zma, creatine, hmb etc but they are no way near enough. Please can i have more suggestions on what to do rather than what not to do

what to do....get off dbol now ...read read and read again, then get some test, wait untill you get your test and pct items, read somemore, start your cycle of test and maybe dbol since ur dead set on using it, then follow up with a pct..all while eating like a sob to maintain your small gains....jmo

[XD40]

Okay obviously your going to do what you want...you should really listen to these guys even though it seems like they are flamming you they are LOOKING OUT FOR YOU BRO! anyways look @ this link...your going to need it since you are going to do what you want...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

[dragonfinger]

im 5 foot 11, body fat percentage is 14.5 approx so after a cycle will look at cutting up just a little. I have stopped the dbol now until I have further info, my only problem which im sure ill get a few replies from which is i am very worried about using needles, i dont have a fear of needles just feel it is a lot harder thing to use, with having to inject myself etc.

[dragonfinger]

for a first cycle would deca and dbol be too strong? obviously with a good pct, eating plan and training regime?

[gibferno]

Why don't you run test e for 12 weeks and then proper PCT? Don't worry about the needles. You only have to inject twice per week.

[Ernst]

Sounds like you've been catching heck. Just a simple test base alone is usually recommended for a first cycle, kickstart with dbol if you must. Deca opens a whole other can of worms, and using it by itself without test alongside almost always leads to a limp dick (ever read about "deca dick"?). Also the ancillary compounds need to be re-examined with use of deca. Simple is elegant. That test only easygoing first cycle is recommended for good reasons. Not to overlook the most important part ... how's the diet coming along?

[dragonfinger]

This is my average day, tell me what you think......

7 a.m: Bowl of bran flakes oats and dried fruit with semi skimmed milk
7:30 a.m: 3 cooked egg whites

10am: Chicken Salad

1pm: Chicken and wholemeal pasta broccoli and sweetcorn or Pasta Bolognaise (wholemeal pasta)

3pm: natural yoghurt with oats, tin of tuna

4pm: WORK OUT

5:30pm post work out shake

8pm: protein shake

[Ernst]

Honestly I'm not too fond of it. It seems a bit light on real good food. There's no macros posted (protein, carbs, and fats-- both per meal, and totals for day), which makes it hard to even evaluate meals that may have some promise. I'll send you a sample diet so you have an idea where to begin.

[Ernst]

Apparently you cannot receive PM's? Anyway, here's a sample of what I'm doing. It's still got weaknesses. For example, there is not a good high carb source pre-workout. This is because I haven't settled on one yet. I also hate eggs and cottage cheese, so they are not represented. This may not be the kind of diet that will work for you. After all, I created it with me in mind, not you; But you could do a lot worse, and at very least it will give you some ideas on how to plan your own.

MEAL 1:
1 CUP 1% MILK
1 CAN SALMON
1 CUP OATMEAL W/BERRIES
1 MULTIVITAMIN

P: 54 C: 66 F: 8 CAL: 565

MEAL 2:
80Z. CHICKEN BREAST
1/2LB. SWEET POTATO
1 TSP. FLAX OIL

P:68 C: 43 F: 11 CAL: 535

MEAL 3 (PWO):
2 SCPS. ON WHEY PROTEIN
2 CUPS NONFAT MILK
1 BANANA

P: 68 C: 81 F: 5 CAL: 620

MEAL 4:
300G. TURKEY BREAST
3 SLICES WHOLE GRAIN BREAD
VEGGIES (NOT INCL. IN TOTALS)
1 TSP. FLAX OIL

P: 60 C: 45 F: 13 CAL: 545

MEAL 5:
1 CUP NONFAT MILK
8OZ. TRI-TIP STEAK
1/2LB. SWEET POTATO

P: 61 C: 53 F: 17 CAL: 620

MEAL 6:
1 CAN TUNA
1 CUP LENTILS
1 TSP. FLAX OIL

P: 55 C: 40 F: 9 CAL: 440

BEFORE BED:
1 SCP. ON CASEIN PROTEIN
2 FISH OIL CAPS

P:23 C:4 F:3 CAL: 145

TOTALS: PRO: 389G CARBS: 332G FATS: 66G KCALS: 3,470

[dragonfinger]

Thanks for that, i have ordered some test e, clomid and proviron , am having problems getting hold of arimidex though. now heading to shops to get some new foods, i dont think my body will need as much protein as you take in though as i am a lot smaller than you i imagine.

[xero]

i dont think you people understand what i am asking, i was only saying what friends had told me i wasnt asking for what NOT to do but more along the lines of what to do! Its all well and good telling me what not to d but i would like help and suggestions on what to take and what cycles to do and where to get the best info on different pct's etc.

You have told the forum what you ARE doing. In response, you have been advised not to do what you ARE currently doing.

If you put in a bit of effort to research using this forum as a huge searchable database of excellent knowledge, i guarantee you will NEVER need to ask a single question in order to find out what you SHOULD be doing.

Just put in the effort.

[lee1990]

i have been taking dianabol for 2 weeks at 25mg ed. i have realsed it is pointless. i wont be able to get clomid for a few days. should i be ok if i stop eg my natural test levels

[dragonfinger]

it was suggested to me to stop as i was early into my dbol only cycle but 2 weeks in im not sure, if you search for obro on here he has done a dbol only cycle so may be able to offer some good advice, he said he didnt notice any gains until the 3rd week and was also taking 30mg (3 x 10mg) is clomid all you are taking for pct?

[normski]

i dont think you people understand what i am asking, i was only saying what friends had told me i wasnt asking for what NOT to do but more along the lines of what to do! Its all well and good telling me what not to d but i would like help and suggestions on what to take and what cycles to do and where to get the best info on different pct's etc. My goals are probably not as high as what you guys had when you started as I am only looking for small gains and to maintain these gains, i.e. 1 stone (what ever that is in pounds) I have tried strong legal supplement stacks of things such as trib test, zma, creatine, hmb etc but they are no way near enough. Please can i have more suggestions on what to do rather than what not to do

I had the same sort of problem. The problem is, Opinions are like Bums holes, we all have one. On here, a load of guys will say do not do Dbol on it’s own! But I have other sites, and Co’s. who sell Steroids who say there’s nothing wrong in it! So in short it’s very confusing. I have my own trainer who has been doing this stuff for 6 years now, on and off, and what I have found out, to my best is, 25 to 40mg per day Dbol for a starter like you and me is OK, not over dosing. But it’s best to also stake with something like deca 200mil per week, Regards pyramiding, Sorry to say I am not that knowledgeable, but I can’t see too much of a problem, if you don’t go mad, I am on a 6 week cycle peaking at 60mg per day Dbol start 20mg per day and then dropping off to the end. Deca will help balance some of the effects of the Dbol, and help maintain a good amount of the gain over the cycle. But I also take 100mg per day of Carsil to protect my insides, from the Dbol.

[muhammad1185]

ive read all the replys on this post, its intresting how everyones trying to give you advice and tell you the right things, just apppriciate what they do for you to start with.

now with advice on what to do and not 'what not to do'. i think if you do decide to continue take d-bol-

1) for no more than 6 weeks, at around 30mgs a day, do not pyramid, take at intervals i.e.12pm,4pm,8pm
2)eat well and train well
3)get some test e, and run a 10-12 week course, from 400-500mgs two times a week every 3.5 to 4 days
4)DONT WATCH WHAT YOUR MATES HAVE GAINED, EVERYONES DIFFERENT
5)take alpha lipic acid, liv 52, milk thistle, dandilion, and 0.25 arimidex a day, it will help with liver preservation and stop bloat,
6)drink shit loads of water, if you dont piss every half hour and have a bottle of water in your hand at all times, count yourself dead.
7) pct- this is the main thing, youve been told by pt and other members what to take, no clomid, nolva, arimidix, proviron etc, these are what you need.


ive been on the cycle for over 2 weeks myself, ive had no sides, i follow this everyday without fail, and ive put on 2kgs in under 2 weeks, im happy with the way its going so far, p,s- have nolva on hand for gyno, and remember steroids aint a joke, if you decide to get on gear, do it, dont look back, do it right, learn from the members and read till you cant read no more.

[dragonfinger]

hi guys, i have been reading up loads, the only thing i am struggling to find info on is what are the suggested gap periods between cycles that include dbol . what is the shortest gap period suggested?

[normski]

With Dbol , it's Normally about 4 to 6 weeks tops. What are you stacking with it? If anything!

[Ernst]

Basic rule of thumb: time on + pct = time off.

[joe2009]

Basic rule of thumb: time on + pct = time off.

very true, good advice

[dragonfinger]

another question, des anyone know the recommended daily allowance of ***** 3, at the moment i am having flax seeds on my breakfast (approx one teaspoon) 2 x 1000mg tabs of flaxseed oil and one small cod liver oil tab, is this too much ***** 3?

[dragonfinger]

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