oral only combi

**TallMan** · 07-22-2008, 12:48 PM

Hi, for my next cycle I wanna do an oral only cause I can't have injecting material in the house these days.
I'm at the moment 215 lbs with 15% so I have to bring it down a little more to about 10% before I'm gonna cycle again.

My plan is this; 4 weeks everyday:
50 mg oxy
30 mg dianabol
60 mg anavar
20 mg nolvadex

Any thoughts ?

**redz** · 07-22-2008, 01:12 PM

cycle history and stats?

that is a very liver toxic cycle and you should probably save the nolva for pct.

**RaWRZ0R!** · 07-22-2008, 01:14 PM

like redz said thats like basically wanting your liver to die. you should get milk thistle if your going to be doing that

**joe2009** · 07-22-2008, 03:49 PM

going to be very very hard on the liver, also why take var with dbol , they both do totaly different things

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by redz

cycle history and stats?

that is a very liver toxic cycle and you should probably save the nolva for pct.

I like to keep the water down with it. I'm also using it as pct of caurse.

Originally Posted by RaWRZ0R!

like redz said thats like basically wanting your liver to die. you should get milk thistle if your going to be doing that

got it right here buddy

Originally Posted by joe2009

going to be very very hard on the liver, also why take var with dbol, they both do totaly different things

That's the point. Combining steroids for there different features.

**Teras** · 07-23-2008, 04:34 AM

What is your goal? I have run one oral-only before but I got mostly strength with very little mass. Mixing D-bol and Drol is not a good idea, it's 2 toxic compounds and they are basically used to achieve the same. If anything I'd run the var only @ 80mg. Or if you are set on this, D-bol 40mg and var 60mg along with anti-e, but you will probably be disappointed. Don't expect more than 5-10lbs of net gains after a 8-week cycle and after the water disappear.

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Teras

What is your goal? I have run one oral-only before but I got mostly strength with very little mass. Mixing D-bol and Drol is not a good idea, it's 2 toxic compounds and they are basically used to achieve the same. If anything I'd run the var only @ 80mg. Or if you are set on this, D-bol 40mg and var 60mg along with anti-e, but you will probably be disappointed. Don't expect more than 5-10lbs of net gains after a 8-week cycle and after the water disappear.

I just want some mass and some strength.
I've read that oxy and dianabol have good synergy and the anavar is just for some nice strengt and maybe the enhanced callogen synthesis will fix some of my problems.
I'm not very scared of the toxicity cause I will use milk thisle and only cycle this for 4 weeks. Checking blood before,during and after

**sam_sneed** · 07-23-2008, 05:17 AM

Everyday there is an oral only thread.

IMO every cycle should have a Test base.

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by sam_sneed

Everyday there is an oral only thread.

IMO every cycle should have a Test base.

and I agree with you, but I can't have injecting material at the moment

**rhino1** · 07-23-2008, 05:23 AM

save your money on the dbol and run var for longer

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by rhino1

save your money on the dbol and run var for longer

and oxy ?

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 12:30 PM

bump

**g0dsend** · 07-23-2008, 12:35 PM

Wow, thats alot of orals for your liver to have a very hard time to process.

But dude, how can you not use injections? Store them somewere, in a car, in a safe, somewere.

If you are DEAD ON set on doing that "cycle", which I dont think you should do, then I recommend 2 Gallons of water a day. 1500mg MT, Add some Liv52 and DONT DRINK ALCOHOL.

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by g0dsend

Wow, thats alot of orals for your liver to have a very hard time to process.

But dude, how can you not use injections? Store them somewere, in a car, in a safe, somewere.

If you are DEAD ON set on doing that "cycle", which I dont think you should do, then I recommend 2 Gallons of water a day. 1500mg MT, Add some Liv52 and DONT DRINK ALCOHOL.

I don't have a car and no safe also

If I would buy a safe I would get questions.

I'll be drinking lots of water and taking milkthistle and no alcohol of caurse.
I'm taking a low dose of oxy, low dose dbol and an avarage dose of anavar . For only 4 weeks my guess is that I wont do any permanent damage.
I've seen guy taking twice as much as I'm about to take and the after blood results were good.
So on what are you basing your conclusion ?

**redz** · 07-23-2008, 01:31 PM

I don't have a car and no safe also
If I would buy a safe I would get questions.

I'll be drinking lots of water and taking milkthistle and no alcohol of caurse.
I'm taking a low dose of oxy, low dose dbol and an avarage dose of anavar . For only 4 weeks my guess is that I wont do any permanent damage.
I've seen guy taking twice as much as I'm about to take and the after blood results were good.
So on what are you basing your conclusion ?

Its not hard to hide gear are you afraid of your parents or something? how old are you?

**g0dsend** · 07-23-2008, 01:34 PM

how old are you?

**TallMan** · 07-23-2008, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Its not hard to hide gear are you afraid of your parents or something? how old are you?

I'm 24 and I live together with my paranoid girlfriend

**wilsonB** · 07-25-2008, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by TallMan

I'm 24 and I live together with my paranoid girlfriend

dude i dont understand, i hide my pins from my whole family. dous she go through all ya stuff, i just leve it all in my gym bag if she looks through you bags thats messed up

**TallMan** · 07-25-2008, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by wilsonB

dude i dont understand, i hide my pins from my whole family. dous she go through all ya stuff, i just leve it all in my gym bag if she looks through you bags thats messed up

No she doesn't look through my stuff. The main problem is injecting itself. I'm not sure if I can do that every week at the same times without getting caught.

**Teras** · 07-25-2008, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by TallMan

No she doesn't look through my stuff. The main problem is injecting itself. I'm not sure if I can do that every week at the same times without getting caught.

Come on, you have to be the man. Tell her it's like this and there is no way around it. She'll bitch and cry but soon enough she'll do the injections for you!!!

Plus 4 weeks of anavar is useless IMO. Run var 6-8 weeks.

**mkrulic** · 07-23-2008, 04:02 PM

store the needles somewhere

**T_Own** · 07-23-2008, 04:06 PM

milk thistle only helps so much, not with all that stuff. i'd just do like 80mg anavar for 6 weeks or something. the others aren't going to help bring your body fat down at all, and just bloat you more

**TallMan** · 07-24-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by T_Own

milk thistle only helps so much, not with all that stuff. i'd just do like 80mg anavar for 6 weeks or something. the others aren't going to help bring your body fat down at all, and just bloat you more

As I told in my opening post I'm gonna slim down to about 10% bf before I'm gonna cycle.

btw, will I bloat noticeable when using 20mg nolvadex a day ?

**g0dsend** · 07-23-2008, 07:05 PM

Only thing is to get bloodwork done before and after your cycle, to just see how much damage you did to your liver and kidneys.

**stallion_1** · 07-24-2008, 10:46 PM

make sure you put Stallion somewhere in you will. lol

Dude, this is a terrible cycle, just because you can't do something right does not mean you must do something wrong.

TEST is a must with oxy, and d-bol.

i've been juicing for years, i know what im sayin'.

this is why AAS are illegal. Damn newbies.

**one8nine** · 07-24-2008, 11:26 PM

i honestly dont think youll make it 4 weeks
i assume you mean oxymetholone... anadrol
140mg of orals? insane. suicide honestly
on top of it crushing the estrogen that helps clean your liver

by the way if you mean drol by oxy, NOT a good mix with nolva especially at 15% body fat
drol stimulated pgr to the max

**Drummerboy** · 07-24-2008, 11:32 PM

jeeze, better get a lot of liv52

**TallMan** · 07-25-2008, 01:23 AM

ok ok, no time to get hardheaded I guess. Only one guy says to take that much (friend of mine) and everyone here says it plain wrong to do so.

1+1=2

I'm gonna do 60mg anavar a day for 6 weeks.

**stallion_1** · 07-25-2008, 01:30 AM

lol, dont ever listen to that dude, and by this info, he aint much of a friend.

who the **** thinks u can take d-bol and drol and all that other stuff?? who i mean who?

anavar would be good with test prop.

testosterone should be the base for all cycles.

ur liver should be shivering, but hey put me in ur will.

**TallMan** · 07-25-2008, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

lol, dont ever listen to that dude, and by this info, he aint much of a friend.
who the **** thinks u can take d-bol and drol and all that other stuff?? who i mean who?
anavar would be good with test prop.
testosterone should be the base for all cycles.

ur liver should be shivering, but hey put me in ur will.

Ah well, he's a good guy so that makes him a friend.
He takes double the shit I wanted to take and after 4 weeks he'll let me see the blood results.

It's probably not going to look very good, but he's not doing this 10 times a year. So no one is gonna die bro, you're overreacting a bit.

**one8nine** · 07-25-2008, 08:15 AM

how can you be close enough to live with someone but not let her in on this

why not educate her and get her approval

**TallMan** · 07-25-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

how can you be close enough to live with someone but not let her in on this

why not educate her and get her approval

Believe me I tried. I told her I was gonna cycle and she's still a little mad about it cause she doesn't want a boyfriend who uses drugs.
I can educate whatever I want it just a principle of her cause she doesn't want anything to drugs and illegal stuff anymore cause her life was ****ed up a few years ago cause of that.

**TJM7275** · 07-25-2008, 02:29 PM

Dude wake up early, pretend you gotta take a dump and inject yourself. I find it very hard to believe you can't find a hiding spot. My buddy was feeling the same way you were two days ago. i went over his house and found 5 different spots to hide his gear. And are you seriously telling us your with your girl 24/7... I don't buy it and if you are thats just sad. It may seem harsh but not as harsh as running that cycle. get a test with a long ester that you can bang twice a week.

**stallion_1** · 07-25-2008, 07:13 PM

i bet it's not that he's afraid of being caught.
he's just afraid of pinning.

**wilsonB** · 07-25-2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

i bet it's not that he's afraid of being caught.
he's just afraid of pinning.

lol i look ford to it then just befor i do it im like shit... but i recon it is less pain full when you do it your self my mate used to do it for me, i think cos your actualy expecting it but wen you do it your self you have to concentrate.

**TallMan** · 07-26-2008, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by TJM7275

Dude wake up early, pretend you gotta take a dump and inject yourself. I find it very hard to believe you can't find a hiding spot. My buddy was feeling the same way you were two days ago. i went over his house and found 5 different spots to hide his gear. And are you seriously telling us your with your girl 24/7... I don't buy it and if you are thats just sad. It may seem harsh but not as harsh as running that cycle. get a test with a long ester that you can bang twice a week.

No she's not here all the time. But I thought injecting everytime at the sime day and time was very important to get stable blood values.
Maybe I got an idea. I bring some pins to my neighbour and when I can't inject at home I just bring a vial with me and inject there

I'm gonna think it all out for a while.

Originally Posted by stallion_1

i bet it's not that he's afraid of being caught.
he's just afraid of pinning.

LOL, you think so negative of me. I've injected before and I found it fun to do.

**cfiler** · 07-25-2008, 11:39 PM

A couple options

1) Run a proper cycle and hide the needles, pins, ect. from your girlfriend

2) Don't run any cycle

3) Run that oral only cycle and cause potencial liver problems

Anavar is not as liver toxic as the other orals, and you could run a low dosage Var only cycle but expect small gains. The safest and most effective way to run a cycle imo is to start with a test base, then add another chemical which would be dependent on your cycle's goal.