love and steroids

[MercyDog]

ok seriously, bro wha kinda chicks you messin with???? hairy cracks? thats naaaaaasty..lol..brazilian wax..get them a damn cupon..shit if all girls had the hair hes talkin bout i'd be yawnin 2 i'm sure most of us would be..n e way

I'm 30's and seeing a natural blonde thats 19y.o. and her best friend who is 22y.o. and they both are very very sweet. I got rid of a girlfriend 2 months ago, we dated for over 2 years and it took me a whole 3 days to find another sex partner. I trust no-one thats why I'm never let down. And I'm still yawning. I know 100% for sure if you cats knew how to charm the ladies and get laid there wouldn't be no crying around.

And btw the hair thing was a joke.

[MercyDog]

so if your a guy with feeling you just have high estrogen level-emotionsare normal in humans-just eraticx emotions ar hard to deal with-maybe hes found someone special then which is more important someone to grow old with and love or something to make your hair fall and give you acne-just because someone has feelings there isnt a problem-the problem is just priorities-is it yourself then fine-but its not fair to be in a relationship and waste someones time when your purposely doing things that will make you have erractic feelings and possibly cause anothewr person grief-i mean face it-its a selfish lifestyle-nothing wrog with it-but dont involve another-how can you goon adate when you cant eat shit at a restaurant?if your into you then be into it and focus on you-but dont subject another person to your personal drama-because wether you like it ot not unless your dating another person into that strict of adiet and the gym and all that its a hell on someone being with you-i was with a former mr.georgia for 4 years-never again-and im into fitness and the gym and am even considering doing a cycle now-but his life was not meant to be shared with another-its hell being with someone on juice-its hellll--fights for n reason at all-mood swinmgs-a boxing matching because you say your cold and try to cut down the air-not fun-i dont like to fight--bit thats all it was-i think the dedication is admirable and quite amazing but is no fun to never get to go out to dinner or you wanna go out with friends and he cant cause hes training and then you come home to a fist fight cause hes jealous-hellllll -you never get to do anything like real people do because your lifes about you-decide-but dont subject another to it-its all great but at some point you decide me or a life-i choose a life -you cant grow old with a syringe--- fiilling the void with juice isnt gonna fix whats wrong=-what happens when you get huge and it doesnt fix whats making you feel empty-cause say what you will its filling a void-i admit it-i fill mine other ways-its all kinda a crutch to get you by and you think youll feel ok when you get to that place--well you wonti know i dont--its inside-not outside-you cant fix it with outside stuff-im not being rude or mean just honest-like in the wizard of oz you always had the power inside you-we all do-we arent born broken-we just think we are-dedication os great-and we always need to take care of ourselves-but know what matters most-finding someone and having a life-or you-and if your young maybe its about you and thats fine-but at some point it needs to be about someone else too

I could puke, steroids don't make you an asshole, you picked an asshole and stayed 4 years at that. I didn't enter this sport to fill voids or get laid. As for fighting I was better at that 50lbs. ago. Some of the best hearted people I know use steroids .

[RuhlFreak55]

I could puke, steroids don't make you an asshole, you picked an asshole and stayed 4 years at that. I didn't enter this sport to fill voids or get laid. As for fighting I was better at that 50lbs. ago. Some of the best hearted people I know use steroids.

I think i'm a good example of that

[arenawarrior]

good thing im good looking and have a good girlfriend. Flame on

[one8nine]

your estrogen is through the roof or its your progesterone

lay out your cycle including auxiliary drugs
include your bf%

bump

[jleal]

I'm 30's and seeing a natural blonde thats 19y.o. and her best friend who is 22y.o. and they both are very very sweet. I got rid of a girlfriend 2 months ago, we dated for over 2 years and it took me a whole 3 days to find another sex partner. I trust no-one thats why I'm never let down. And I'm still yawning. I know 100% for sure if you cats knew how to charm the ladies and get laid there wouldn't be no crying around.

And btw the hair thing was a joke.

So it makes you feel better that your with a kid. I know she is considered an adult, but she has not matured...you havent either. Thats nothing to brag about. I agree on the rest thou " I know 100% for sure if you cats knew how to charm the ladies and get laid there wouldn't be no crying around"

[scibble]

I know 100% for sure if you cats knew how to charm the ladies and get laid there wouldn't be no crying around.

No doubt.

Hey, let me know when you've got some of that ^^ for sale, I'll buy a few vials,

LOL

[glamazonprince]

its a fact steroids cause emotional inbalances to at least some degree-its also my opinion that its a very self centered lifestyle that you have to lead to get yourself in top condition-im not saying thats a bad thing im just saying i dont think the lifestyle needed to go with getting in top form and dating really go hand in hand-you cant devote yourself to a real relatonshipo if your training i dont believe-at least not pre competition training-i think you misunderstood my post-i wasnt saying steroid users are bad at all-i have a good friend thats hugeeeeee into it-im just saying it can effect emotions-well usualy does to some degree-im not even saying chris was bad im just saying on steroids he was not himself-thats why i stayed for the between cycles good times-as for filling a void-ok call it a goal-say someone has a idea that when they reach this goal lifes gonna be better-its all gonna be great-chasing after this dream-well you get there-get all you ever wanted-nope-life didnt magically get better-it all didnt get good lke magic-i was with someone who just knew once he was mr.georgia it would all be worth it--after he won sunk into a deep depression-and tried od od on pills-it wasnt the cure all he dreamed of-that was my point to that-you cant fill a need by outside sources-thats all--im not whining-i wouldnt change a thing-i learned great lessons-i was just speaking my opinion and mind-i didnt mean any offence

[MercyDog]

So it makes you feel better that your with a kid. I know she is considered an adult, but she has not matured...you havent either. Thats nothing to brag about. I agree on the rest thou " I know 100% for sure if you cats knew how to charm the ladies and get laid there wouldn't be no crying around"

Yes it does, makes me feel really, really good actually. And trust me as you wouldn't know apparently, there's plenty of 19y.o. and 22y.o. ladies that are very mature and sexual, much more than I even. I still get carded for beer and have a tighter body than most all younger guys. You are correct though I haven't matured yet and that makes me alot of fun to party with. I'll probably have to eat a bullit if someday I mature and act all proper like proper people think I should. Thats just too boring for me.

[CAMboy]

its just completely ****ing me up man, i cant eat properly all i think about is this girl, i dont even get pumped in the gym not even raring to go, i dont know what to do, its kinda making me depressed now that I know i aint using the gear to its max

dude listen to urself ur letting a girl dictate ur life...she is not da only one in da world - learn to accept that. yes its depressing and da androgens aren't helping with it either. keep urself busy, hang out with friends keep urself busy.

[stpete]

Tighten up bro. Take your frustration out in the gym and go get some strange somewhere. And whatever you do, don't let her know you're hurt. For all you know, she might want to get back together in a week or so. Then what?

[AnimalGear]

how old are you bro? Because I'm 20 and i've been there too. the one thing that works is to realize that you need to slow down a bit and realize how awesome of a person YOU are. You may feel this way about this girl cause you feel like you'll never catch another one like this ever again...but there are plenty of fish in the sea

[ShadetreeJones]

Dude if you ask me chick rage and bodybuilding go hand in hand.
Anytime I'm angry or hurt by a chick my workout intensity goes through the roof and my diet becomes super focused.
All I can think about is how good I want her to hear I'm looking, and how I want to be able to crush her new boyfriend's head like a ****ing grape.

A truer statement has never been made on this website.

[jackdup04]

your estrogen is through the roof or its your progesterone

lay out your cycle including auxiliary drugs
include your bf%

bump

[CsB]

your estrogen is through the roof or its your progesterone

lay out your cycle including auxiliary drugs
include your bf%

its the end of 5th week in a 10 week cycle of sust250 and deca , body fat is around 15 to 20 percent, no other drugs, in early 20s

so is it the love thoughts that flood in the estrogen?

thanks guys for your help, apart from others, it really helped

[daem]

its the end of 5th week in a 10 week cycle of sust250 and deca , body fat is around 15 to 20 percent, no other drugs, in early 20s

so is it the love thoughts that flood in the estrogen?

thanks guys for your help, apart from others, it really helped

Eeps, that's a very high bodyfat to start cycling without having to go heavy to prevent estrogenic sides.

I'm not at all surprised your emotions are out of whack.

Are you running anti estrogens or AI's to limit it? This is the bodyfat range that I'd be most concerned running a cycle.

[one8nine]

its the end of 5th week in a 10 week cycle of sust250 and deca , body fat is around 15 to 20 percent, no other drugs, in early 20s

so is it the love thoughts that flood in the estrogen?

thanks guys for your help, apart from others, it really helped

daem had a good response^^. ill empand a little

1) your body fat it too high to be cycling (over 12%). because of that your test is aromatizing heavily into estrogen. = side effects

2) you are running sustanon . my guess is 2x a week, correct me if im wrong. sustanon itself = side effects. sustanon used incorrectly = heavy side effects

3) you are using deca. deca stimulates progesterone receptors. = side effects.

take something to control estrogen/progesterone:
estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

if you choose a compound as terrible as sust, use it correctly atleast:
this is why sust sucks

get your diet under control so you can get to an acceptable bodyfat %
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

[rock75]

I'm trying to get better looking so I can pick up girls. That way I can get rid of the wife that's good for about nothing. Do yourself a favor. Go to the gym bust your butt. And get a better girl. It's just like at work. Now days anyone can be replaced. I don't mean to sound like a prick, but sometimes that's all there is to it.

Just because you put on some muscle doesn't mean a thing; you"ll still be an ugly mug

do yourself a favor and lose the wife if your not happy; anything less is pretty pathetic

[nhl1]

I have had my heart absolutely stomped on while on cycle, by the same girl, twice!

The problem with steroids , love, and the brain, is that they can have this certain psychological effect known as psychosis. Going through a heartbreak, break-up, (or whatever!) while on cycle is very difficult, because you can very easily slip into an obsessive compulsive disorder routine. Steroids and extremely high levels of hormones have been proven to do this.

You won't be able to get her out of your head, then you'll start wondering where she is, whats she doing tonight? Why did your friends not call you back? Are they hanging out with her? Is she banging him? What if she is? WTF. MOTHAF&$%* ILL KILL THAT STUPID....

And you can see where I'm going with this.

Now one other problem, is that once you come off of them, and your shutdown begins and you have to jump start your hpta, you're going to feel even more like shit.

I'm 29, and I've crushed a half a dozen hearts, of course 2/3 or those were psychos, but I've also had my heart trampled on MANY TIMES. So badly that there were times when I never thought I'd get over it.

The best thing that works for me is just to get back on the horse. Go find that herpes slut and the local bar, and willingly accept the bumpy ride that she's offering. Just make sure you strap up. lol- dude im jk, avoid the clap! Also, make sure you take time with yourself, keep reassuring yourself that you're going to be okay. I know this is tough if this is one of the first few times you've been through it, but trust me, TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS.

And lastly, since no one here will ever know my real name - lol! - I have no problem telling you that when I was at home by myself, morning, day, and night, after a heartbreak, I cried like a F'n baby. Don't be ashamed of it. Let the bad out.

[nhl1]

A truer statement has never been made on this website.

I will second this notion, I know the EXACT feeling.

Good thing was I actually got to fight the guy, of course another guy jumped in against me at the same time, but even with the 1 on 2 I still took him down. Gotta love 12 years of hockey fights.


Also, CSB, are you running an AI? If you're piling on water weight which sust and deca will do you might be starting to get the old fat face. Chicks hate that! You have to keep the water off of the face. Steroids can really make you look like shit, thats why I usually stick with things like primo or winny these day, run 250 mg of test and also an AI. Water is the enemy!

[CsB]

nhl1, cheers for you reply man, its good to see someone who understands, I guess I just gotta keep my mind occupied, I was watching pumping iron and that kinda did the job, temporarily. just gotta find other ways

dont worry I dont have any water bloat yet

[lovbyts]

Yes love can defiantly screw up a cycle. I missed almost 2 weeks of working out sort of. Relationship sort of fell apart in a bad way but no blow out, just really lousy timing even though it's never a good time we had just gotten engaged a few months before (long story) but she got cold feet (to much details to explain) so I was LONG way from home, not quick access to weights and didnt really want to go to a gym and had the choice of either sitting in my motel room sulking for 12 more days of my vacation being alone or finding entertainment.

I opted for finding entertainment and shagged 13 different girls in 10 days including having one of them for 5 days straight. I did get in some good cardio workout. The last 2 days I ended up hooking up with the GF again but I dont think it's going anywhere still.

Notice the screen name? LOL

[john1181]

when your in lovelike this, there isn much u can do bout it...only time will help and how yo take advntage of that time..how hard you try to make someting of it...

How to Cope With Depression on a Day to Day Basis

* Write. Keep a journal. Somehow writing everything down helps keep the misery from running around in circles.
* Listen to your favorite "help" songs (a bunch of songs that have strong positive meaning for you)
* Read (anything and everything) Go to the library and check out fiction you've wanted to read for a long time; books about depression, spirituality, morality; biographies about people who suffered from depression but still did well with their lives (Winston Churchill and Martin Luther, to name two.
* Sleep for a while
* Even when busy, remember to sleep. Notice if what you do before sleeping changes how you sleep.
* If you might be a danger to yourself, don't be alone. Find people. If that is not practical, call them up on the phone. If there is no one you feel you can call, suicide hotlines can be helpful, even if you're not quite that badly off yet.
* Hug someone or have someone hug you.
* Remember to eat. Notice if eating certain things (e.g. sugar or coffee) changes how you feel.
* Make yourself a fancy dinner, maybe invite someone over.
* Take a bath or a perfumed bubble bath.
* Mess around on the computer.
* Rent comedy videos.
* Go for a long walk
* Dancing. Alone in my house or out with a friend.
* Eat well. Try to alternate foods you like ( Maybe junk foods) with the stuff you know you should be eating.
* Spend some time playing with a child
* Buy yourself a gift
* Phone a friend
* Read the newspaper comics page
* Do something unexpectedly nice for someone
* Do something unexpectedly nice for yourself.
* Go outside and look at the sky.
* Get some exercise while you're out, but don't take it too seriously.
* Pulling weeds is nice, and so is digging in the dirt.
* Sing. If you are worried about responses from critical neighbors, go for a drive and sing as loud as you want in the car. There's something about the physical act of singing old favorites that's very soothing. Maybe the rhythmic breathing that singing enforces does something for you too. Lullabies are especially good.
* Pick a small easy task, like sweeping the floor, and do it.
* If you can meditate, it's really helpful. But when you're really down you may not be able to meditate. Your ability to meditate will return when the depression lifts. If you are unable to meditate, find some comforting reading and read it out loud.
* Feed yourself nourishing food.
* Bring in some flowers and look at them.
* Exercise, Sports. It is amazing how well some people can play sports even when feeling very miserable.
* Pick some action that is so small and specific you know you can do it in the present. This helps you feel better because you actually accomplish something, instead of getting caught up in abstract worries and huge ideas for change. For example say "hi" to someone new if you are trying to be more sociable. Or, clean up one side of a room if you are trying to regain control over your home.
* If you're anxious about something you're avoiding, try to get some support to face it.
* Getting Up. Many depressions are characterized by guilt, and lots of it. Many of the things that depressed people want to do because of their depressions (staying in bed, not going out) wind up making the depression worse because they end up causing depressed people to feel like they are screwing things up more and more. So if you've had six or seven hours of sleep, try to make yourself get out of bed the moment you wake up...you may not always succeed, but when you do, it's nice to have gotten a head start on the day.
* Cleaning the house. This worked for some people me in a big way. When depressions are at their worst, you may find yourself unable to do brain work, but you probably can do body things. One depressed person wrote, "So I spent two weeks cleaning my house, and I mean CLEANING: cupboards scrubbed, walls washed, stuff given away... throughout the two weeks, I kept on thinking "I'm not cleaning it right, this looks terrible, I don't even know how to clean properly", but at the end, I had this sparkling beautiful house!"
* Volunteer work. Doing volunteer work on a regular basis seems to keep the demons at bay, somewhat... it can help take the focus off of yourself and put it on people who may have larger problems (even though it doesn't always feel that way).
* In general, It is extremely important to try to understand if something you can't seem to accomplish is something you simply CAN'T do because you're depressed (write a computer program, be charming on a date), or whether its something you CAN do, but it's going to be hell (cleaning the house, going for a walk with a friend, getting out of bed). If it turns out to be something you can do, but don't want to, try to do it anyway. You will not always succeed, but try. And when you succeed, it will always amaze you to look back on it afterwards and say "I felt like such shit, but look how well I managed to...!" This last technique, by the way, usually works for body stuff only (cleaning, cooking, etc.). The brain stuff often winds up getting put off until after the depression lifts.
* Do not set yourself difficult goals or take on a great deal of responsibility.
* Break large tasks into many smaller ones, set some priorities, and do what you can, as you can.
* Do not expect too much from yourself. Unrealistic expectations will only increase feelings of failure, as they are impossible to meet. Perfectionism leads to increased depression.
* Try to be with other people, it is usually better than being alone.
* Participate in activities that may make you feel better. You might try mild exercise, going to a movie, a ball game, or participating in religious or social activities. Don't overdo it or get upset if your mood does not greatly improve right away. Feeling better takes time.
* Do not make any major life decisions, such as quitting your job or getting married or separated while depressed. The negative thinking that accompanies depression may lead to horribly wrong decisions. If pressured to make such a decision, explain that you will make the decision as soon as possible after the depression lifts. Remember you are not seeing yourself, the world, or the future in an objective way when you are depressed.
* While people may tell you to "snap out" of your depression, that is not possible. The recovery from depression usually requires antidepressant therapy and/or psychotherapy. You cannot simple make yourself "snap out" of the depression. Asking you to "snap out" of a depression makes as much sense as asking someone to "snap out" of diabetes or an under-active thyroid gland.
* Remember: Depression makes you have negative thoughts about yourself, about the world, the people in your life, and about the future. Remember that your negative thoughts are not a rational way to think of things. It is as if you are seeing yourself, the world, and the future through a fog of negativity. Do not accept your negative thinking as being true. It is part of the depression and will disappear as your depression responds to treatment. If your negative (hopeless) view of the future leads you to seriously consider suicide, be sure to tell your doctor about this and ask for help. Suicide would be an irreversible act based on your unrealistically hopeless thoughts.
* Remember that the feeling that nothing can make depression better is part of the illness of depression. Things are probably not nearly as hopeless as you think they are.
* If you are on medication:
a. Take the medication as directed. Keep taking it as directed for as long as directed.
b. Discuss with the doctor ahead of time what happens in case of unacceptable side-effects.
c. Don't stop taking medication or change dosage without discussing it with your doctor, unless you discussed it ahead of time.
d. Remember to check about mixing other things with medication. Ask the prescribing doctor, and/or the pharmacist and/or look it up in the Physician's Desk Reference. Redundancy is good.
e. Except in emergencies, it is a good idea to check what your insurance covers before receiving treatment.
* Do not rely on your doctor or therapist to know everything. Do some reading yourself. Some of what is available to read yourself may be wrong, but much of it will shed light on your disorder.
* Talk to your doctor if you think your medication is giving undesirable side-effects.
* Do ask them if you think an alternative treatment might be more appropriate for you.
* Do tell them anything you think it is important to know.
* Do feel free to seek out a second opinion from a different qualified medical professional if you feel that you cannot get what you need from the one you have.
* Skipping appointments, because you are "too sick to go to the doctor" is generally a bad idea..
* If you procrastinate, don't try to get everything done. Start by getting one thing done. Then get the next thing done. Handle one crisis at a time.
* If you are trying to remember too many things to do, it is okay to write them down. If you make lists of tasks, work on only one task at a time. Trying to do too many things can be too much. It can be helpful to have a short list of things to do "now" and a longer list of things you have decided not to worry about just yet. When you finish writing the long list, try to forget about it for a while.
* If you have a list of things to do, also keep a list of what you have accomplished too, and congratulate yourself each time you get something done. Don't take completed tasks off your to-do list. If you do, you will only have a list of uncompleted tasks. It's useful to have the crossed-off items visible so you can see what you have accomplished
* In general, drinking alcohol makes depression worse. Many cold remedies contain alcohol. Read the label. Being on medication may change how alcohol affects you.
* Books on the topic of "What to do during Depression": "A Reason to Live," Melody Beattie, Tyndale House Publishers, Wheaton, IL. 167 pages. This book focuses on reasons to choose life over suicide, but is still useful even if suicide isn't on your mind. In fact, it reads a lot like this portion of the FAQ. An excerpt:
* Do two things each day. In times of severe crisis, when you don't want to do anything, do two things each day. Depending on your physical and emotional condition, the two things could be taking a shower and making a phone call, or writing a letter and painting a room

[john1181]

lol, yea most is funny

[lovbyts]

Way to long of a list. The best way to get over a girl is to get on top of another one.

[one8nine]

nhl1, cheers for you reply man, its good to see someone who understands, I guess I just gotta keep my mind occupied, I was watching pumping iron and that kinda did the job, temporarily. just gotta find other ways

dont worry I dont have any water bloat yet

you can still have side effects withough water bloat

[KatsMeow]

it's not going to be easy...geez I wish my recent breakup with my ex had him as screwed up as I am. I'm having a hard time myself, luckily I have a personal trainer that is amazing, and he won't let me give up when I feel like crying. All I want to do is go to sleep for a week, even though I know reality will just be there when I wake up. The only thing that makes it better is going out and doing things, trying to keep busy, because if you just sit at home it will tear you apart.
I could have possibly stayed in my relationship, but I know I deserve better, going out and sleeping with someone else isn't going to make it any better. At this point you have to work on healing your heart and that takes time. As I am taking it day by day. Be strong.

[one8nine]

it will be very easy if you control your out of wack hormones by lowering your bodyfat and taking letro
get on .5mg letro ed and taper down to .25 after a while then post a thread talking about how silly the whole situation was

[santacruz05]

I find the problem with relationships is sometimes one person becomes over dependent on having someone, and forgets what independent is. Independency is an amazing characteristic, that few have. Many people are just waiting for someone to sink there claws into, truely independent people can be happy, truely happy without anyone else. Try and rebuild your independence.

I'll also add that chicks are attracted to independent guys. Noone likes a whiny bitch, lol

[legobricks]

thats why i hate love and feelings.

as do I. Just always remember to put yourself before anything else and you'll be fineeee

Things I live by on a day to day basis. Ive been screwed over bad in my life by a girl that i was engaged and almost married to. Ever since then my whole mindset and view on relationships has been squashed. Yes i do get the whole butterflies thing when i meet girls and there is a connection but thats as far as it goes. Ill date them and usually get sick of something. If i get screwed over or turned down i jsut move on. I have my own view on the whole "love" thing and think its just overrated. Is there true love? Many people have their opinions on it but as for me i think all relationships need work and true love is just something that is forced upon us. Most people live in small tight knit communities, who's to say that your true love is 2000miles away vs in the same town or city where most meet their mate and get married. I could go on and on but lets get back to the subject...

Yes AAS do affect you emotionally as they cause hormonal inbalances. Our body's are not used to have wacked out hormone levels so it has a huge part to play in the whole "love" thing or basically the role of the human emotions. And thats why some can't handle break ups on cycle or even off. You just need to put yourself first and go out and find another. ITs not difficult, you just need to get up and do it. Sorry for being blun but thats life.

Youll be fine, you just need to leave the baggage behind.

[Gears]

Why are you depressed? Whats your cycle like, are you not taking test?

[one8nine]

Why are you depressed? Whats your cycle like, are you not taking test?

see posts 55-57

[kloter1]

Dude if you ask me chick rage and bodybuilding go hand in hand.
Anytime I'm angry or hurt by a chick my workout intensity goes through the roof and my diet becomes super focused.
All I can think about is how good I want her to hear I'm looking, and how I want to be able to crush her new boyfriend's head like a ****ing grape.

LOL no doubt! Exactly how I feel too.

[BuffBuffalo]

Way to long of a list. The best way to get over a girl is to get on top of another one.

I second that!!! LOL

[breakbones]

Dude! just get to the gyme, hit them weights than hit them girls till they scream.

[breakbones]

LOL no doubt! Exactly how I feel too.

this is the way I felt yesterday, and WOW! did I get good pumps, makes me think why I'm on gear, I should just break up with a girl every other week to work out harder.

[breakbones]

when your in lovelike this, there isn much u can do bout it...only time will help and how yo take advntage of that time..how hard you try to make someting of it...

How to Cope With Depression on a Day to Day Basis

* Write. Keep a journal. Somehow writing everything down helps keep the misery from running around in circles.
* Listen to your favorite "help" songs (a bunch of songs that have strong positive meaning for you)
* Read (anything and everything) Go to the library and check out fiction you've wanted to read for a long time; books about depression, spirituality, morality; biographies about people who suffered from depression but still did well with their lives (Winston Churchill and Martin Luther, to name two.
* Sleep for a while
* Even when busy, remember to sleep. Notice if what you do before sleeping changes how you sleep.
* If you might be a danger to yourself, don't be alone. Find people. If that is not practical, call them up on the phone. If there is no one you feel you can call, suicide hotlines can be helpful, even if you're not quite that badly off yet.
* Hug someone or have someone hug you.
* Remember to eat. Notice if eating certain things (e.g. sugar or coffee) changes how you feel.
* Make yourself a fancy dinner, maybe invite someone over.
* Take a bath or a perfumed bubble bath.
* Mess around on the computer.
* Rent comedy videos.
* Go for a long walk
* Dancing. Alone in my house or out with a friend.
* Eat well. Try to alternate foods you like ( Maybe junk foods) with the stuff you know you should be eating.
* Spend some time playing with a child
* Buy yourself a gift
* Phone a friend
* Read the newspaper comics page
* Do something unexpectedly nice for someone
* Do something unexpectedly nice for yourself.
* Go outside and look at the sky.
* Get some exercise while you're out, but don't take it too seriously.
* Pulling weeds is nice, and so is digging in the dirt.
* Sing. If you are worried about responses from critical neighbors, go for a drive and sing as loud as you want in the car. There's something about the physical act of singing old favorites that's very soothing. Maybe the rhythmic breathing that singing enforces does something for you too. Lullabies are especially good.
* Pick a small easy task, like sweeping the floor, and do it.
* If you can meditate, it's really helpful. But when you're really down you may not be able to meditate. Your ability to meditate will return when the depression lifts. If you are unable to meditate, find some comforting reading and read it out loud.
* Feed yourself nourishing food.
* Bring in some flowers and look at them.
* Exercise, Sports. It is amazing how well some people can play sports even when feeling very miserable.
* Pick some action that is so small and specific you know you can do it in the present. This helps you feel better because you actually accomplish something, instead of getting caught up in abstract worries and huge ideas for change. For example say "hi" to someone new if you are trying to be more sociable. Or, clean up one side of a room if you are trying to regain control over your home.
* If you're anxious about something you're avoiding, try to get some support to face it.
* Getting Up. Many depressions are characterized by guilt, and lots of it. Many of the things that depressed people want to do because of their depressions (staying in bed, not going out) wind up making the depression worse because they end up causing depressed people to feel like they are screwing things up more and more. So if you've had six or seven hours of sleep, try to make yourself get out of bed the moment you wake up...you may not always succeed, but when you do, it's nice to have gotten a head start on the day.
* Cleaning the house. This worked for some people me in a big way. When depressions are at their worst, you may find yourself unable to do brain work, but you probably can do body things. One depressed person wrote, "So I spent two weeks cleaning my house, and I mean CLEANING: cupboards scrubbed, walls washed, stuff given away... throughout the two weeks, I kept on thinking "I'm not cleaning it right, this looks terrible, I don't even know how to clean properly", but at the end, I had this sparkling beautiful house!"
* Volunteer work. Doing volunteer work on a regular basis seems to keep the demons at bay, somewhat... it can help take the focus off of yourself and put it on people who may have larger problems (even though it doesn't always feel that way).
* In general, It is extremely important to try to understand if something you can't seem to accomplish is something you simply CAN'T do because you're depressed (write a computer program, be charming on a date), or whether its something you CAN do, but it's going to be hell (cleaning the house, going for a walk with a friend, getting out of bed). If it turns out to be something you can do, but don't want to, try to do it anyway. You will not always succeed, but try. And when you succeed, it will always amaze you to look back on it afterwards and say "I felt like such shit, but look how well I managed to...!" This last technique, by the way, usually works for body stuff only (cleaning, cooking, etc.). The brain stuff often winds up getting put off until after the depression lifts.
* Do not set yourself difficult goals or take on a great deal of responsibility.
* Break large tasks into many smaller ones, set some priorities, and do what you can, as you can.
* Do not expect too much from yourself. Unrealistic expectations will only increase feelings of failure, as they are impossible to meet. Perfectionism leads to increased depression.
* Try to be with other people, it is usually better than being alone.
* Participate in activities that may make you feel better. You might try mild exercise, going to a movie, a ball game, or participating in religious or social activities. Don't overdo it or get upset if your mood does not greatly improve right away. Feeling better takes time.
* Do not make any major life decisions, such as quitting your job or getting married or separated while depressed. The negative thinking that accompanies depression may lead to horribly wrong decisions. If pressured to make such a decision, explain that you will make the decision as soon as possible after the depression lifts. Remember you are not seeing yourself, the world, or the future in an objective way when you are depressed.
* While people may tell you to "snap out" of your depression, that is not possible. The recovery from depression usually requires antidepressant therapy and/or psychotherapy. You cannot simple make yourself "snap out" of the depression. Asking you to "snap out" of a depression makes as much sense as asking someone to "snap out" of diabetes or an under-active thyroid gland.
* Remember: Depression makes you have negative thoughts about yourself, about the world, the people in your life, and about the future. Remember that your negative thoughts are not a rational way to think of things. It is as if you are seeing yourself, the world, and the future through a fog of negativity. Do not accept your negative thinking as being true. It is part of the depression and will disappear as your depression responds to treatment. If your negative (hopeless) view of the future leads you to seriously consider suicide, be sure to tell your doctor about this and ask for help. Suicide would be an irreversible act based on your unrealistically hopeless thoughts.
* Remember that the feeling that nothing can make depression better is part of the illness of depression. Things are probably not nearly as hopeless as you think they are.
* If you are on medication:
a. Take the medication as directed. Keep taking it as directed for as long as directed.
b. Discuss with the doctor ahead of time what happens in case of unacceptable side-effects.
c. Don't stop taking medication or change dosage without discussing it with your doctor, unless you discussed it ahead of time.
d. Remember to check about mixing other things with medication. Ask the prescribing doctor, and/or the pharmacist and/or look it up in the Physician's Desk Reference. Redundancy is good.
e. Except in emergencies, it is a good idea to check what your insurance covers before receiving treatment.
* Do not rely on your doctor or therapist to know everything. Do some reading yourself. Some of what is available to read yourself may be wrong, but much of it will shed light on your disorder.
* Talk to your doctor if you think your medication is giving undesirable side-effects.
* Do ask them if you think an alternative treatment might be more appropriate for you.
* Do tell them anything you think it is important to know.
* Do feel free to seek out a second opinion from a different qualified medical professional if you feel that you cannot get what you need from the one you have.
* Skipping appointments, because you are "too sick to go to the doctor" is generally a bad idea..
* If you procrastinate, don't try to get everything done. Start by getting one thing done. Then get the next thing done. Handle one crisis at a time.
* If you are trying to remember too many things to do, it is okay to write them down. If you make lists of tasks, work on only one task at a time. Trying to do too many things can be too much. It can be helpful to have a short list of things to do "now" and a longer list of things you have decided not to worry about just yet. When you finish writing the long list, try to forget about it for a while.
* If you have a list of things to do, also keep a list of what you have accomplished too, and congratulate yourself each time you get something done. Don't take completed tasks off your to-do list. If you do, you will only have a list of uncompleted tasks. It's useful to have the crossed-off items visible so you can see what you have accomplished
* In general, drinking alcohol makes depression worse. Many cold remedies contain alcohol. Read the label. Being on medication may change how alcohol affects you.
* Books on the topic of "What to do during Depression": "A Reason to Live," Melody Beattie, Tyndale House Publishers, Wheaton, IL. 167 pages. This book focuses on reasons to choose life over suicide, but is still useful even if suicide isn't on your mind. In fact, it reads a lot like this portion of the FAQ. An excerpt:
* Do two things each day. In times of severe crisis, when you don't want to do anything, do two things each day. Depending on your physical and emotional condition, the two things could be taking a shower and making a phone call, or writing a letter and painting a room

Although very true, doing this can also cause more harm by meaning of associations.

[anabolicpower]

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[anabolicpower]

I have had my heart absolutely stomped on while on cycle, by the same girl, twice!

The problem with steroids , love, and the brain, is that they can have this certain psychological effect known as psychosis. Going through a heartbreak, break-up, (or whatever!) while on cycle is very difficult, because you can very easily slip into an obsessive compulsive disorder routine. Steroids and extremely high levels of hormones have been proven to do this.

You won't be able to get her out of your head, then you'll start wondering where she is, whats she doing tonight? Why did your friends not call you back? Are they hanging out with her? Is she banging him? What if she is? WTF. MOTHAF&$%* ILL KILL THAT STUPID....

And you can see where I'm going with this.

Now one other problem, is that once you come off of them, and your shutdown begins and you have to jump start your hpta, you're going to feel even more like shit.

I'm 29, and I've crushed a half a dozen hearts, of course 2/3 or those were psychos, but I've also had my heart trampled on MANY TIMES. So badly that there were times when I never thought I'd get over it.

The best thing that works for me is just to get back on the horse. Go find that herpes slut and the local bar, and willingly accept the bumpy ride that she's offering. Just make sure you strap up. lol- dude im jk, avoid the clap! Also, make sure you take time with yourself, keep reassuring yourself that you're going to be okay. I know this is tough if this is one of the first few times you've been through it, but trust me, TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS.

And lastly, since no one here will ever know my real name - lol! - I have no problem telling you that when I was at home by myself, morning, day, and night, after a heartbreak, I cried like a F'n baby. Don't be ashamed of it. Let the bad out.

ahh man, i know EXACTLY what you are talking about.