Quick Clen question

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 08:03 AM

I read the sticky regarding clen . I have the liquid form; 30ml at 200mcg/ml.

What's the conversion from mcg to mg? I have both 'slin pins and ml syringes.

There is an 'eye dropper' included with the bottle, but it has no markings on it.

Stats:
42yo 5'11" 180lbs.

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 08:51 AM

^^bump^^

**NATE0406** · 08-15-2008, 08:59 AM

why would you want to convert clen from mcgs to mg? you need to be takng clen in the mcgs.

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 09:01 AM

I must have confused you, I have 'slin pins and syringes measured in cc's. How do I convert from iu to mcg's or mcg's to cc's.

I understand that mcg's are small amounts...just want to dose it accurately.

**NATE0406** · 08-15-2008, 09:15 AM

well mcgs to cc would be 200mcgs/ml/cc. so if you wanted to start off with 50mcgs then you would take 1/4 cc. if you wanted to take 100mcgs you would take 1/2 cc. and so on.

**Phate** · 08-15-2008, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

I must have confused you, I have 'slin pins and syringes measured in cc's. How do I convert from iu to mcg's or mcg's to cc's.

I understand that mcg's are small amounts...just want to dose it accurately.

100IU=1cc=1mL

10IU=.1cc=.1mL

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 09:23 AM

I weigh 180lbs and my scale measures weight and bodyfat%. Currently it says 11.9%. I assume that's +/- 3%.

Do I want to dose the clen based upon body weight or start low and dose up?

Oh, and thanks for the feedback

**Phate** · 08-15-2008, 09:25 AM

start at 50mcg and go up by 25 every couple days until the sides are too intense or your blood pressure gets close to 135/85 then back down by 20mcg and run it at that dose

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 09:47 AM

Phate, thank-you. 2 weeks on and 2 off is what I see a lot of people do. Will I notice much in 2 weeks? I'm stacking with 2iu's of GH

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

100IU=1cc=1mL

10IU=.1cc=.1mL

How do I convert mcg's to ml's or cc's??

**KatsMeow** · 08-15-2008, 10:44 AM

one is a weight and one is a volume...the don't convert.
You are going to do a conversion that will give you how may mcg/ml
And 1mL=1cc, they are the same thing
If you have 200mcg/1ml and you want to start by taking say 20mcg each day then you will take 1/10 of a cc

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 10:47 AM

At last...thank you. And also thanks everyone else!

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 10:53 AM

Ok, used the eyedropper to measure. One squeeze equals .4cc or 60mcg. Right? If so, my god, that's a small amount of liquid. At this rate a 30ml vial will last forever...

**High-roller** · 08-15-2008, 11:23 AM

Sorry to high-jack abit, But when I got my liquistane, I got a spray lid, now can I use that for my Clen , after it got clean with water?

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-15-2008, 12:55 PM

W@W I did 40mcg and I'm shaking lilke a '62 Chrysler! I'm going to drop it to 20mcg tomorrow. It's working .....

**Phate** · 08-15-2008, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

Ok, used the eyedropper to measure. One squeeze equals .4cc or 60mcg. Right? If so, my god, that's a small amount of liquid. At this rate a 30ml vial will last forever...

no, .4cc=80mcg at 200mcg/mL

an easy way to do the conversion is remember that since 1cc=200mcg then
.1cc=20mcg then just use multiplication

**phil5883** · 08-16-2008, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

Phate, thank-you. 2 weeks on and 2 off is what I see a lot of people do. Will I notice much in 2 weeks? I'm stacking with 2iu's of GH

Hey you might wanna read this article if you haven't already.. it'll show why exactly the 2week on/off method is a poor choice while using clen .. just some food for thought

its found here..
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/
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So Let´s re-examine that first point I made: Clen vs. clen+ exercise produce roughly the same results for the first 2 weeks! This tells me that the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off schedule for clen dosing is far from optimal, and if you want the quasi-anabolic effect from the clen, it´ll take more than 2weeks on (6 weeks apparently). In addition, since clen alone is similar to clen+ exercise for those first 2 weeks...why would you ever use a 2on/2off protocol? Keep in mind that animal responses to beta-agonist/antagonists differ a bit from ours but I´m sure that you get the idea that 2on/2off is not a great dosing protocol. If I were using clen, I´d be using it for 6-12 weeks at a time, if I expected to get maximum results from it, but certainly, the most dramatic effects on fat loss appear to be in weeks 1-2. The reasons for the further increase in FFM around week 6 despite no changes in %fat or fat mass is not easily explained... It might be that clenbuterol can increases FFM through another nonreceptor-mediated pathway, which would be very good for us, since the anabolic effects would also be applicable in humans, despite the fact that animals often respond more dramatically to beta-agonist/antagonists, due to receptor properties.. However, clenbuterol is highly lipophylic and can also enter muscle tissue (12), so that could indicate a possible mechanism of work. Maybe that would explain the significant increase in FFM of 13 kg in at 8 wks in the study? Certainly, muscle protein synthesis (MPS) must be a part of it, since clen will increase MPS in your body (17)& But it has even been speculated that the growth-promoting effect of clenbuterol may be specific to muscle and that the drug may act in a not-yet-understood manner which circumvents (!) the physiological mechanisms responsible for the control of muscle growth (13). This may mean that clenbuterol can help blast you past "sticking points" in your training by circumventing the usual mechanisms by which anabolism is experienced! It is of note that both muscle composition and fiber size has been shown to increase with administration of clen (14).
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**Indymuscleguy** · 08-16-2008, 11:43 AM

Thank-you!

Originally Posted by Phate

no, .4cc=80mcg at 200mcg/mL

an easy way to do the conversion is remember that since 1cc=200mcg then
.1cc=20mcg then just use multiplication

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-16-2008, 11:43 AM

Thank you phil5883! Lots of good info here

Originally Posted by phil5883

Hey you might wanna read this article if you haven't already.. it'll show why exactly the 2week on/off method is a poor choice while using clen .. just some food for thought

its found here..
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
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So Let´s re-examine that first point I made: Clen vs. clen+ exercise produce roughly the same results for the first 2 weeks! This tells me that the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off schedule for clen dosing is far from optimal, and if you want the quasi-anabolic effect from the clen, it´ll take more than 2weeks on (6 weeks apparently). In addition, since clen alone is similar to clen+ exercise for those first 2 weeks...why would you ever use a 2on/2off protocol? Keep in mind that animal responses to beta-agonist/antagonists differ a bit from ours but I´m sure that you get the idea that 2on/2off is not a great dosing protocol. If I were using clen, I´d be using it for 6-12 weeks at a time, if I expected to get maximum results from it, but certainly, the most dramatic effects on fat loss appear to be in weeks 1-2. The reasons for the further increase in FFM around week 6 despite no changes in %fat or fat mass is not easily explained... It might be that clenbuterol can increases FFM through another nonreceptor-mediated pathway, which would be very good for us, since the anabolic effects would also be applicable in humans, despite the fact that animals often respond more dramatically to beta-agonist/antagonists, due to receptor properties.. However, clenbuterol is highly lipophylic and can also enter muscle tissue (12), so that could indicate a possible mechanism of work. Maybe that would explain the significant increase in FFM of 13 kg in at 8 wks in the study? Certainly, muscle protein synthesis (MPS) must be a part of it, since clen will increase MPS in your body (17)& But it has even been speculated that the growth-promoting effect of clenbuterol may be specific to muscle and that the drug may act in a not-yet-understood manner which circumvents (!) the physiological mechanisms responsible for the control of muscle growth (13). This may mean that clenbuterol can help blast you past "sticking points" in your training by circumventing the usual mechanisms by which anabolism is experienced! It is of note that both muscle composition and fiber size has been shown to increase with administration of clen (14).
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