clen/T3/Winstrol

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-15-2008, 12:22 PM

Hey everyone im 21 6"5 258lbs at ablout 20% BF. I want to run my 1st cycle to burn more bodyfat off before I start my bulking cycles. I want to run Clen weeks 1-3 and weeks 7-9, 60-80-100. T3 weeks 4-7 50-50-100-100 and Winstrol 4-7 150mg/week. How do you think that will work out? My diet is very clean and Im doing atleast 45 mins of cardio a day.

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 12:24 PM

post up your diet
clen is good but not the winny/t3
t3 is catabolic
winny hardens muscle- not burns fat

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-15-2008, 12:27 PM

meal 1- oatmeal with egg whites
meal 2- portein shake
meal 3- 2 turkey burgers with whole grain bread
meal 4- bar
meal 5- 3 chicken breasts cup broc and brown rice
meal6- shake

I throw fruit and different things to change it up, but thats what I had yesterday.

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-15-2008, 12:29 PM

I head clean/T3 is the best fat burner besides DNP . Plus adding winny keeps the muscles harder and dosent helps with the muscle loss during the cycle.

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 12:30 PM

thats pretty good, im not a super diet expert but if you wanna learn more we have these threads, heres a clen faq if you need it too

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

clen FAQ
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269240

**jstraw428** · 08-15-2008, 12:45 PM

You also might want to post your diet in miros......although that looks like a clean diet, if the amounts/serving size is not correct, you could be severely starving your body......

**mkrulic** · 08-15-2008, 12:53 PM

get the fruit out. fruit sugar bypasses the liver and goes straight to fat cells

**jstraw428** · 08-15-2008, 12:56 PM

I eat some fruit almost everyday after my second workout.....along with some egg whites, and a kool aid coolburst.....but i also use insulin .....

**Phate** · 08-15-2008, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by NJBigjay1986

meal 1- oatmeal with egg whites
not bad, i would throw in some bcaas as eggs are a midrange release protein(around 6 hours i believe) so the bcaas will cause an immediate filling of your amino acid pool
meal 2- portein shake
what type of protein and you need carbs in here, throw in about 6-8oz of sweet potatoes
meal 3- 2 turkey burgers with whole grain bread
scrap the whole grain bread and add veges and 5-6oz of sweet potato
meal 4- bar
thats about as vague as you can get, scrap it and eat real food, eat some tuna with light miracle whip and barley or sweet potatoes
meal 5- 3 chicken breasts cup broc and brown rice
scrap brown rice, contrary to popular belief its not a very good carb, add sweet potatoes
meal6- shake
if it's a casein shake then your good, if not then get some cottage cheese and eat that, you can add 150-200g of blueberries, blackberries or strawberrys if you want
I throw fruit and different things to change it up, but thats what I had yesterday.

first off we need portions and macros cause this means nothing really without those, but ill try and help

**one8nine** · 08-15-2008, 06:36 PM

bump for this dude

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-16-2008, 12:37 PM

Thanks for all the dieting tips. Is this a good cycle tho? Im just looking to lose BF, yet keep some muscle mass.

**Phate** · 08-16-2008, 12:44 PM

i would personally throw some test in there at a low dose

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-16-2008, 12:50 PM

would the clen /T3/winny be a good fat loss mix? I read on a website thats a good beginner fat loss cycle.

**one8nine** · 08-16-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

i would personally throw some test in there at a low dose

at 20%? no way
he needs to diet/clen his way down to 12% before any AAS, ESPECIALLY aromatizing aas

**mkrulic** · 08-16-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by NJBigjay1986

would the clen/T3/winny be a good fat loss mix? I read on a website thats a good beginner fat loss cycle.

winny has nothing to do w/ fat loss.

**one8nine** · 08-16-2008, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by NJBigjay1986

would the clen/T3/winny be a good fat loss mix? I read on a website thats a good beginner fat loss cycle.

that plus testosterone would be a great cycle for some thats under 12% to get to 8%
but above 12%, no, only clen /diet

**Phate** · 08-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

that plus testosterone would be a great cycle for some thats under 12% to get to 8%
but above 12%, no, only clen/diet

completely agree, my bad, didnt see his bf%

**NJBigjay1986** · 08-16-2008, 10:38 PM

So what will be the results of I did do this cycle?

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by NJBigjay1986

So what will be the results of I did do this cycle?

if you want to ignore all of our advice dont bother posting
re read your thread
dont do the cycle

**mkrulic** · 08-17-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by NJBigjay1986

So what will be the results of I did do this cycle?

w/o diet and training in place nothing. the winny is an unnecessary addition. it does NOT burn fat. get diet and training worked out and research the different hormones available and post a cycle that makes sense w/ the goals you have in mind