confused

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 03:52 PM

I'm 14days into my 2nd cycle of 800mg cyp and 600mg eq per weekI started at 183lbs @10% 5'8". I am eating more, working out the same but I have lost 6 lbs and I'm cutting like crazy. I don't know why I'm not putting on weight, but my muscle mass is not being lost and its like rock. Is this going to keep happening? My workouts are not as good and I am feeling weaker when I lift and my stamina has dropped. I feel like I could sleep the day away, WTF is going on? I know the gear is real.

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 03:55 PM

if you have your diet on check, then maybe the eq started taking effect, and so ur having that cutting effect. 14 days is too son for cyp to take effect, so u will gain weight with the test but it will be at least 5 weeks.

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 04:01 PM

So is that why I feel more tired and weak because the eq lowers test and the cyp hasn't kicked in yet.

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Fatmax

So is that why I feel more tired and weak because the eq lowers test and the cyp hasn't kicked in yet.

well it sounds like you have lethargy, thats perfectly normal on roids

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 04:06 PM

but I didn't feel that my last cycle of 600mg enanth. Do u think that the eq was a good idea

**inky-e** · 08-16-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Fatmax

but I didn't feel that my last cycle of 600mg enanth. Do u think that the eq was a good idea

When did you finish your last cycle???

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 04:12 PM

4months ago it was a 12 week cycle

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Fatmax

4months ago it was a 12 week cycle

mmmmm
4 months is not enough time for your body to recover, ur body will get used to roids and u wont make great gains every time u cycle. i dont think eq was a bad idea, i think not letting ur body recover enough is a bad idea

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 04:59 PM

well I got my nuts back after 1 1/2 months and my blood tests came back good with test levels in the norm and my ALT # was good about a month ago so I thoght it would be okay. How long should u usually wait?

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 05:12 PM

Anyone?

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 05:18 PM

If you wanna get excellent results, id stick to 3 cycles per 2 years. So thats like 7-8 months in between

**Fatmax** · 08-16-2008, 05:21 PM

okay, but I can finish this one right?

**lcstriker07** · 08-16-2008, 05:22 PM

I've always heard "Time On + PCT = Time Off" bro. But at that rate it sounds like you would have cleared the timing assuming a 12 week cycle with 4-5 week pct. Kudos on being smart enough to go to the Dr. to make sure your body had maintained original function. Sounds like your Cyp just hasn't kicked in and youre just rolling on the eq right now. Cyp takes 4-6 weeks to peak from what I've read so you may continue this path for a couple more weeks. I'll dig up the link I saw that on.

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by fatmax

okay, but i can finish this one right?

well, id say yes u already started. Why waste precious gear?

**lcstriker07** · 08-16-2008, 05:29 PM

Test Injection Frequency Graphs

Here it is. Just what I was talking about.

**mkrulic** · 08-16-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

if you have your diet on check, then maybe the eq started taking effect, and so ur having that cutting effect. 14 days is too son for cyp to take effect, so u will gain weight with the test but it will be at least 5 weeks.

what? eq does not cut. If youre eating more and working out the same you should be gaining weight. doesnt matter what you are on.