Gonna be the big bald dude!! Critique

**916casanova** · 08-16-2008, 10:06 PM

Hey all, after that last cycle of test and tren I am going to accept the hairloss and keep my build! *LOL* Not to concerned with the hairloss now. Hows this cycle sound?Gonna start 600mg test cypionate with 600 mg eq a week by dividing it in 2 injections. Also kick starting with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks and running cycle 12. Can I get away with less test and eq taking them together or this a good amount?

**stallion_1** · 08-16-2008, 10:09 PM

i dont understand ur question

**sorel_C** · 08-16-2008, 10:09 PM

dbols always make my head itchy and hair thin out,,, saw palmetto and dht shamposs helped a bit,,,, finastride low dose should help you save your hair if not grow thinker hair,, if all else fails graf your head man,, you can finace now

**one8nine** · 08-16-2008, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

Hey all, after that last cycle of test and tren I am going to accept the hairloss and keep my build! *LOL* Gonna start 600mg test cypionate with 600 mg eq a week by dividing it in 2 injections. Also kick starting with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks and running cycle 12. How can I get away with less test and eq taking them together or this good?

you can run a hrt dose of test 200mg a week
but then the real meat of the cycle would be EQ, which is a very week drug
not really worth it
what are you goals with eq?
eq needs to be cut 3 weeks before pct, test c 2 weeks before pct

**MR_T** · 08-16-2008, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

Hey all, after that last cycle of test and tren I am going to accept the hairloss and keep my build! *LOL* Not to concerned with the hairloss now. Hows this cycle sound?Gonna start 600mg test cypionate with 600 mg eq a week by dividing it in 2 injections. Also kick starting with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks and running cycle 12. Can I get away with less test and eq taking them together or this a good amount?

how bad was the hairloss?

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 12:14 AM

Pretty bad hairloss from the tren . I did cypionate with eq before at a low dose and didn't thin at all. My next cycle with Tren thinned bad in like a week and a half.

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

you can run a hrt dose of test 200mg a week
but then the real meat of the cycle would be EQ, which is a very week drug
not really worth it
what are you goals with eq?
eq needs to be cut 3 weeks before pct, test c 2 weeks before pct

What is hrt? I read that eq is good for vascularity and either that or deca would stack well with cypionate .

**Kale** · 08-17-2008, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

What is hrt? I read that eq is good for vascularity and either that or deca would stack well with cypionate.

HRT stand for Hormone Replacements Therapy, also known as TRT or Testosterone Replacement Therapy. Older guys like me benefit from a low dose of Test permanently as it is the fountain of youth

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

What is hrt? I read that eq is good for vascularity and either that or deca would stack well with cypionate.

deca will do 10x as much for you

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 11:29 AM

My friend was out of Deca and I only have eq.. Is it a waste? With what I do have what would be a good dosage stacking cypionate and eq?

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

My friend was out of Deca and I only have eq.. Is it a waste? With what I do have what would be a good dosage stacking cypionate and eq?

if your test is low like 200mg a week due to hair loss and you are only relying on eq for gains id do it 1000mg+ a weak, its very weak as a drug and theres not much actual active hormone after the ester clears

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

if your test is low like 200mg a week due to hair loss and you are only relying on eq for gains id do it 1000mg+ a weak, its very weak as a drug and theres not much actual active hormone after the ester clears

I was going to run the test cypionate at 500-600mg a week with eq at 600mg a week. Not concerned about hairloss anymore. Kicking it off with 40mg of dbol . That sound good? Also should I break it up in 2 different days a week or do it all the same day?

**one8nine** · 08-17-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

I was going to run the test cypionate at 500-600mg a week with eq at 600mg a week. Not concerned about hairloss anymore. Kicking it off with 40mg of dbol. That sound good? Also should I break it up in 2 different days a week or do it all the same day?

well thats good.
if you do eq thats a good way to do it to start off
2x a week

**nhl1** · 08-17-2008, 11:55 AM

I think you should forget about the cyp/eq cycle and just run sustanon . No sides at all and your hair will probably grow back.

Wait for it...

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 11:57 AM

Already have the cyp and eq though. Seems like I should go for deca next time though eh?

**nhl1** · 08-17-2008, 12:00 PM

I was jk about the sust man, I don't know one8nine well but I thought it might be a little amusing to see what he would have to say about my suggestion. It was just a stupid joke.

Honestly, when I ran eq for 15 weeks, at 600mg a week, I didnt notice any great gains from it at all. It gave me a raging hunger though, constantly, so if you're looking for bulk and mass, its good for that.

All you have to do is look at my abs in my avatar and you'll see the fat I'm still to this day trying to burn off from all the food I have eaten on eq. It will give you an endurance boost but it seems to take like 8 weeks for that to kick in, its very wierd.

But hopefully it will work for you, it just isnt the choice of drug for me. If you're looking for size, the difference between eq and deca is night and day. I believe in chemical structure they resemble one another very closely but they don't produce the same results at all. Sellers probably say this to get people to buy eq, because I won't buy it again. Deca is a great mass builder, EQ is an apetite stimulant and a cutter. Thats in my experience at least.

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 12:02 PM

Oh! LOL forgot the haterofsustanon! *L*

**jc95605** · 08-17-2008, 12:03 PM

Ya I think deca would be better than EQ too. I also heard that EQ is a waste. Step it up and get some deca.

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 12:46 PM

No deca available from him right now and I already have the eq. Would a 16 week cycle be too long for cypionate and eq at 600mg a week each?

**nhl1** · 08-17-2008, 12:51 PM

Everyones different, I'd play it out and see how ya feel. It all depends on sides. But you are going to be severely shutdown after that. So I would make sure you have a potent pct on hand.

**Booz** · 08-17-2008, 12:52 PM

eq is not a waste,some get great gains off it but you will not get as much as if you used another compound such as deca ...............

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by nhl1

Everyones different, I'd play it out and see how ya feel. It all depends on sides. But you are going to be severely shutdown after that. So I would make sure you have a potent pct on hand.

Shut down severely due to being on it so long? Should I up the dosage and run it 12-13 weeks or just save a couple bottles for next time?

PT · 08-17-2008, 12:55 PM

i grow alot more off deca but i love eq when cutting. i actually even throw it in bulking cycles along with deca and test alot now

**nhl1** · 08-17-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

Shut down severely due to being on it so long? Should I up the dosage and run it 12-13 weeks or just save a couple bottles for next time?

Well, I'm no expert. But you'll be shut down severely from running a 600mg dose of test for 15 weeks. However, if you run 800mg of test for 12 weeks, you will also be severely shutdown.

I just look at it as anytime you do test at 500mg a week or more for 8 weeks or more, you can just expect you're body to not be producing anymore natural testosterone . Thats just how I expect my body to work, anything better is just a bonus.

Thats why people use things like hcg , adex, letro, proviron , other AI's, etc... during their cycle.

**916casanova** · 08-17-2008, 01:03 PM

I have clomid, nolva and arimidex on hand for afterwards. Kinda got upset stomach from nolva last time but maybe cuz I was coming off tren . Just took clomid and arimidex the last 3 weeks and kept my gains and didn't break out at all..

**infojunky79** · 08-20-2008, 10:57 AM

I NEED HELP!!!

First of all please excuse me if I unknowingly use any wrong terms as I am still in between novice and intermediate as far as knowledge goes........But,

I have done one cycle of sust. 250 and Deca successfully. (8 weeks) I have been off just about as long or more as I was on. The results were ok and I was impressed for my first time obviuosly, but i did not PCT correctly and lost alot of size, sex drive etc. The main concern I have is LOSS OF HAIR! It is, at this point, starting to fall out. I am scared to be honest. I have fine limp hair and feel I just may be predisposed to hair loss anyway but I have seemed only speed up the progress.

My questions are (and I hope someone can enlighten me):

Is this temporary and will it possibly come back?
If I decided to start another cycle, what is the safest one to do?
what anti-hair loss products do I sue to combat the side effects, reverse or atleast keep what I have?
Should I have blood work done to see where levels are?
And most importantly.....WHAT IS THE PROPER COMBO OF PCT?

Thanks so much for the help anyone can provide.

**916casanova** · 08-20-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by infojunky79

I NEED HELP!!!

First of all please excuse me if I unknowingly use any wrong terms as I am still in between novice and intermediate as far as knowledge goes........But,

I have done one cycle of sust. 250 and Deca successfully. (8 weeks) I have been off just about as long or more as I was on. The results were ok and I was impressed for my first time obviuosly, but i did not PCT correctly and lost alot of size, sex drive etc. The main concern I have is LOSS OF HAIR! It is, at this point, starting to fall out. I am scared to be honest. I have fine limp hair and feel I just may be predisposed to hair loss anyway but I have seemed only speed up the progress.

My questions are (and I hope someone can enlighten me):

Is this temporary and will it possibly come back?
If I decided to start another cycle, what is the safest one to do?
what anti-hair loss products do I sue to combat the side effects, reverse or atleast keep what I have?
Should I have blood work done to see where levels are?
And most importantly.....WHAT IS THE PROPER COMBO OF PCT?

Thanks so much for the help anyone can provide.

You can take finastride in the form of propecia or proscar and use 2% nizoral shampoo to slow the hair loss process. Some roids like Winny, tren ,deca etc are hard on the hair anyway even taking all the precautions. As for pct depending on what you are taking will depend on when you start taking it and depending on what roids you are taking there are certain things you may want to take while on cycle. Ex, while taking Tren A I also took T3 for my thyroid. Look in the pct forum and it has alot of info.

**Ashop** · 08-20-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by 916casanova

Hey all, after that last cycle of test and tren I am going to accept the hairloss and keep my build! *LOL* Not to concerned with the hairloss now. Hows this cycle sound?Gonna start 600mg test cypionate with 600 mg eq a week by dividing it in 2 injections. Also kick starting with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks and running cycle 12. Can I get away with less test and eq taking them together or this a good amount?

sounds like a strong cycle. train big,,,eat big.
dont forget anti'e's