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    3 weeks in and Prop still hasn't kicked in

    I do not understand this at all. I'm about to start my 4th week of Test Prop at 150mg EOD and I still have not felt any difference at all. No strength gain or increased libdo what so ever. I really don't feel like I'm on anything. If anybody remembers a couple months ago I made a similar thread about being on prop for 2 weeks and not feeling anything at all. And I came to the conclusion my gear was fake. So I got some new gear from a new source and I'm sure it's legit, the other one was probably legit too.

    I'm now starting to develop some gyno too, so I don't know what to think of that. That must mean that the prop is real and it is getting into my system, but why am I not feeling its androgenic affects at all ? Could it be that my body just doesn't respond to normal doses of testosterone ?

    Does anybody have an answer ?


    p.s: I hope nobody says anything about diet, because it's irrelavant and has nothing to do with this. My diet's fine though BTW. But people use Prop on huge calorie deficits and they still gain a lot of strength and feel "on". Clueless teenagers go on Test cycles and have horrible diets and still gain 20lbs, which they end up losing. But they still gain it.

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    Wow 150 mg eod, thats a high dose

    im sure ur gear is fake, u shouldve felt something by 2.5 weeks, specially at that dose.

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    How is your diet? J/K
    Take a pic of you gear, minus the company name and post it in here http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

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    whats you bf%
    no ai?

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    bro i have the same problem with prop,, but i do feel different with in a week,, not really notacible but still,, gains come in at the end of week 3 and beggining of week 4 but they come all at once! weekd 4-6 then by 7 i usually cut it because i level off,,,, just some food for thought

    if you got gyno signs already, i wouldt over stress it wait a week longer,, if nothing happenings then, well then you worry

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    my bf is around 10% and I'm not taking an AI yet. I'm taking Nolva now and will start letro soon.

    I don't understand how it could be fake if I'm getting gyno. I think I might try upping the dose from 525mg a week to 700mg a week.

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    ya that odd, I feel the prop in one week, and that taking 200mg a week. not like what u are going at 150mg EOD. I think it fake. U got scamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    Wow 150 mg eod, thats a high dose

    im sure ur gear is fake, u shouldve felt something by 2.5 weeks, specially at that dose.
    3.5 (eod) * 150mg = 525mg/wk. Not terribly high dose.


    Maybe you are expecting more from steroids than they have to offer. sorry bout your luck.

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    Whats your cycle experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfew44 View Post
    Whats your cycle experience?
    1st or 2nd cycle depending on how you want to look at it. The first time I tried AAS was 2 months ago and 2 and a half weeks in I thought my gear was fake and I stopped. So that's why I'm so shocked that 525mg of test isn't doing anything for me. Maybe if this was like 5th cycle I'd understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    3.5 (eod) * 150mg = 525mg/wk. Not terribly high dose.


    Maybe you are expecting more from steroids than they have to offer. sorry bout your luck.


    I know what you mean man but I really wasn't. I was expecting about 15lbs of LBM and for all my major lifts to go up 30-35lbs. And from all the research I did and reading other people's logs, those are some very reasonable gains that I was expecting. I've still got some time though, maybe bumping up the dosage might make a difference. I've got nothing to lose by trying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banelord View Post
    ya that odd, I feel the prop in one week, and that taking 200mg a week. not like what u are going at 150mg EOD. I think it fake. U got scamed.
    how can you explain the gyno ?

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    I think it all in his mind. A lot of people I know think they have gyno and were using stupit things like oral deca . What the hell is oral deca? Gyno my ass, he has no idea what to expect from roids, Test E I can understand, there is no pain and nothing happen until 4 to 5 week and u just become superman, But Test P, that act really fast, well on me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banelord View Post
    I think it all in his mind. A lot of people I know think they have gyno and were using stupit things like oral deca. What the hell is oral deca? Gyno my ass, he has no idea what to expect from roids, Test E I can understand, there is no pain and nothing happen until 4 to 5 week and u just become superman, But Test P, that act really fast, well on me at least.
    it's not in my mind. My nipples have been very sore and sensitive for the past week. I haven't felt like that since puberty.

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    u know that happen to me too, the first time I use juice, I was pretty worried I was thinking of even going to a doctor, but I ask a friend which had more experince then I did and it was nothing to worry about, does it feel like a tingle feeling, like an itch?
    That should go away within a week, if u think u see some breast begining to develop then u should ask a doctor.

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    I've felt the effects of prop as early as a week in. Your gear may be either fake or severly underdosed. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    I've felt the effects of prop as early as a week in. Your gear may be either fake or severly underdosed. IMO
    this is the same thing I was told 2 months ago. I think the chances of me getting sold bunk or underdosed gear from two different sources in the span of a couple months are pretty slim. And I'm fully positive my last source was legit. I'm also sure that I'm developing gyno now, so that has to account for something.

    why couldn't it just be a problem with my body and how it reacts ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Scott View Post
    this is the same thing I was told 2 months ago. I think the chances of me getting sold bunk or underdosed gear from two different sources in the span of a couple months are pretty slim. And I'm fully positive my last source was legit. I'm also sure that I'm developing gyno now, so that has to account for something.

    why couldn't it just be a problem with my body and how it reacts ?
    Maybe it IS yur body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    Maybe it IS yur body.
    I don't think there's any other explanation.

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    give yourself another week,, if you really have questions get bloodwork done and end all the unexplainable questions you have........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Scott View Post
    it's not in my mind. My nipples have been very sore and sensitive for the past week. I haven't felt like that since puberty.
    That happened to me when i started taking arimidex , go figure that one out. You could always get a blood test and that will tell you FOR SURE. You should be in the 2,000-3,000 range if its legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    That happened to me when i started taking arimidex, go figure that one out. .
    hmm, but I wasn't taking anything else at all other than the Test, no AI, no SERM, etc

    You could always get a blood test and that will tell you FOR SURE. You should be in the 2,000-3,000 range if its legit
    I'm not very familiar with blood testing. I'm worried about what I would say to the doctor or if I could get into trouble. That's total testosterone right ?
    Last edited by Michael Scott; 08-17-2008 at 05:31 PM.

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    ...wow, it should not take so long to feel test prop does not matter what your body fat is or diet...I typically feel at the end of the first week.. I am curious now..how soon do you guys usually feel it at? fake gear, it must be if you don't anything by the time you have indicated and at that dose.

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    fake gear. what you taking for your gyno, that needs to be cured asap.

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    And a nonresponder to steroids is very rare.

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    This is an old thread.

    I will say that But people use Prop on huge calorie deficits and they still gain a lot of strength and feel "on". this is not true. I do not feel on when cutting on cycle. Ive prepped for 9 contests on cycle. Without the food, I do not feel "on". And, I lose strength to some degree.

    The OP's diet sucked, Im sure.

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    Absolutely.Ive prepped for 4 contest on cycle.Id much rather cycle and eat large amounts. Hell food is anabolic .And yes this is an old thread.

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    All I know Is I like that Avator above and screw this old thread

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    prop fast acting results shown very quickly deffo fake prop u have
    nolvodecx should be taken asap for your gyno..
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    hi i heard get some blood work done, so what you just go into the doctors and ask for a blood test???? what are you spose to find wrong with the blood??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawlyszyn1987 View Post
    hi i heard get some blood work done, so what you just go into the doctors and ask for a blood test???? what are you spose to find wrong with the blood??
    I hope your not on a cycle now? Anyway your from the UK like me, go to a needle exchange, and ask there, they will do it there and explain everything you need to now.

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    It has been four months......I wonder if the prop has kicked in yet?

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    it probably has not, but just a cuppel of more weeks and it will start to kick inn..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    That happened to me when i started taking arimidex, go figure that one out. You could always get a blood test and that will tell you FOR SURE. You should be in the 2,000-3,000 range if its legit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Scott View Post
    hmm, but I wasn't taking anything else at all other than the Test, no AI, no SERM, etc

    I'm not very familiar with blood testing. I'm worried about what I would say to the doctor or if I could get into trouble. That's total testosterone right ?

    he's explaining that he took arimidex (anti-estrogen) and it caused his nipples to get sore. so the drug used to REMOVE gyno caused his nipples to get sore. He didn't get gyno from it though. Nipples can be sore for a lot of reasons. Maybe it's fake gear and they put some other chemical in it that your body is reacting to.

    When i start prop i'm feeling it in a few days. Usually by the 3rd day my libido is off the chart and i feel good. I feel test E before 3 weeks and it's a long ester.

    Also, it's VERY plausible that you found 2 fake sources. Do you know how many fake sources there are? probably 10 times more fake sources than legit sources.

    Go get your testosterone and estradiol (estrogen) levels checked. That will solve your mystery real fast. If the test isn't elevated quite a bit and your estrogen is in the normal range then chances are you have fake gear and no gyno.

    I used to get sensitive nipples on occasion before i even knew what steroids were. It just happens sometimes. Usually when i start working out really heavy.

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