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    Lightbulb Sustanon, Deca and D-Bol cycle

    hi guys, i have those three things in my pocket now. i would like 2 know about the best cycle for those. i plan to use d-bol alone for 4 weeks and followed with deca and susta for 12 weeks... here the complete schedule:

    4weeks with 20-30mg D-BOL and then,
    5-12 weeks with 100mg Deca Durabolin and 500mg Sustanon and then PCT

    is it good to still take D-BOL in 5-12 weeks running together with Deca and Susta? or i should drop the D-BOL? comments please. thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    hi guys, i have those three things in my pocket now. i would like 2 know about the best cycle for those. i plan to use d-bol alone for 4 weeks and followed with deca and susta for 12 weeks... here the complete schedule:

    4weeks with 20-30mg D-BOL and then,
    5-12 weeks with 100mg Deca Durabolin and 500mg Sustanon and then PCT

    is it good to still take D-BOL in 5-12 weeks running together with Deca and Susta? or i should drop the D-BOL? comments please. thx!
    1. cycle sucks
    2.deca and sus must start at week 1 too
    3.100 mg of deca a week is too low to get any anabolic effect
    4.deca must be stopped 2 weeks before the last shot of sus
    5.do more research and come up with a best cycle
    6.dbol should be at least 30 mg a day

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    i've never use steroids before. it will be my first time....i've prepared 10amps of deca durabolin 100mg, 24amps of sustanon 250mg, and 150tabs of D-BOL 10mg.

    i do research now and i think this forum is the right place. if u dont mind, can u give me an example for begginer mass cycle?....with those drug i have for sure.thanks again!

    =i am 23 years old, 174cm, 167,5pounds/lbs, 2years training without any cycle=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    i've never use steroids before. it will be my first time....i've prepared 10amps of deca durabolin 100mg, 24amps of sustanon 250mg, and 150tabs of D-BOL 10mg.

    i do research now and i think this forum is the right place. if u dont mind, can u give me an example for begginer mass cycle?....with those drug i have for sure.thanks again!

    =i am 23 years old, 174cm, 167,5pounds/lbs, 2years training without any cycle=
    leave out the deca but you can use the sust and dbol if you already have it read that guide its all you need

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    j/k...
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    thats 5'7 in feet fyi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    thats 5'7 in feet fyi.
    damn it i suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    thats 5'7 in feet fyi.
    i thought i was supposed to be the good one with math ha ha

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    thanks one8nine! i am reading it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    thanks one8nine! i am reading it...
    the only difference is test e is injected 2x a week.
    you have to shoot 1/2 ml of your sust every other day

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    the only difference is test e is injected 2x a week.
    you have to shoot 1/2 ml of your sust every other day

    1/2ml so total is still 250mg/week is it enough how bout:

    week 1-5 = susta 500mg, Deca 200mg, D-Bol 30mg/day
    week 6-11 = susta 500mg, Deca 200mg, D-Bol 40mg/day
    week 12 = susta 500mg

    after 2 weeks = PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    1/2ml so total is still 250mg/week is it enough how bout:

    week 1-5 = susta 500mg, Deca 200mg, D-Bol 30mg/day
    week 6-11 = susta 500mg, Deca 200mg, D-Bol 40mg/day
    week 12 = susta 500mg

    after 2 weeks = PCT
    so your weeks only have 4 days?

    every other day... 3.5 x 125mg = ~450mg a week
    dont use deca
    YOU HAVE TO SHOOT SUST EOD, OR EVERY DAY

    whats your idea for pct

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    You can build more naturally yet, with only 2 years worth of training under your belt you need more of a base before considering doing a cycle....trust me build a solid base to work from first

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    so your weeks only have 4 days?

    every other day... 3.5 x 125mg = ~450mg a week
    dont use deca
    YOU HAVE TO SHOOT SUST EOD, OR EVERY DAY

    whats your idea for pct
    why i should not use deca?most people here recommend deca for bulking cycle. the combination from androgenic and anabolic are good to gain more weights and keep stabilize our testosterone level bla bla bla...and it's make sense.i read lots here... i got from mims.com too....

    for PCT i have tamofen(tamoxifen citrate) my friend suggest to take twice a day with proviron . wad do u think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    i thought i was supposed to be the good one with math ha ha
    google calculator my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    why i should not use deca ?most people here recommend deca for bulking cycle. the combination from androgenic and anabolic are good to gain more weights and keep stabilize our testosterone level bla bla bla...and it's make sense.i read lots here... i got from mims.com too.... Only One compound is recommended for a first cycle.

    for PCT i have tamofen(tamoxifen citrate) my friend suggest to take twice a day with proviron . wad do u think?How long for? What dosage are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    google calculator my man.
    aha i know i was just mental ballin that at 6'0

    "176mc to ft"
    i love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    why i should not use deca ?most people here recommend deca for bulking cycle. the combination from androgenic and anabolic are good to gain more weights and keep stabilize our testosterone level bla bla bla...and it's make sense.i read lots here... i got from mims.com too....

    for PCT i have tamofen(tamoxifen citrate) my friend suggest to take twice a day with proviron. wad do u think?
    start small.
    do you understand how to use sust now?

    start 2 weeks after final sust shot
    20mg ed nolva
    50mg ed proviron
    4 week +

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You can build more naturally yet, with only 2 years worth of training under your belt you need more of a base before considering doing a cycle....trust me build a solid base to work from first
    yap! but sir, i am damn bored with this limited power, less of endurance and slow in gain, get pumped just 20-25mins in gym and so faint after it. i eat 7times/day, sleep 7hours/day... there are so many supplements sh*t i bought with small result.

    i am dead serious about this and fully commited for 8 months ahead!

    maybe u can tell me your experiences....if u dont mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbigt View Post
    Replies in bold.
    thats why i am here....to learn and answer all questions including yours next time.

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    am i sounds too ambitious to use two compounds at first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    am i sounds too ambitious to use two compounds at first cycle?
    dbol is okay to kickstart test because the test takes forever to peak anyway
    but no deca please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    am i sounds too ambitious to use two compounds at first cycle?
    I did it. I could have fu**ed myself up though. I wouldn't recommend it. Just use your sust w/ the dbols and you should be pleased with your gains. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullyson View Post
    I did it. I could have fu**ed myself up though. I wouldn't recommend it. Just use your sust w/ the dbols and you should be pleased with your gains. Good luck.
    sust + dbol = 2 compounds
    1 + 1 = 2
    right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    i've never use steroids before. it will be my first time....i've prepared 10amps of deca durabolin 100mg, 24amps of sustanon 250mg, and 150tabs of D-BOL 10mg.

    i do research now and i think this forum is the right place. if u dont mind, can u give me an example for begginer mass cycle?....with those drug i have for sure.thanks again!

    =i am 23 years old, 174cm, 167,5pounds/lbs, 2years training without any cycle=
    Even if you wanted to use the deca you couldnt because you dont have enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    sust + dbol = 2 compounds
    1 + 1 = 2
    right?
    sorry i mean 3 compounds. d-bol deca and susta. so, the best for me is play just with 2 compounds (d-bol and susta) okay?! i will decide it later and post my progress soon. thanks to all of u!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win369 View Post
    sorry i mean 3 compounds. d-bol deca and susta. so, the best for me is play just with 2 compounds (d-bol and susta) okay?! i will decide it later and post my progress soon. thanks to all of u!
    No just 1 compound.

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