For The Joints....

[sandan]

In my history with AAS I have really only done small test cycles(a few orals here and there). I feel with my upcoming cycle I need to throw in something for the joints. without getting to specific, my profession is really hard on the body and I feel it in my joints especially when on test.

I will be doing 325 mgs of sust for 12 weeks and I am trying to figure out what o stack with. Deca seems like a good alternative, but the bloat and shutdown dont look good. Can you experts recommend me an alternative compound? My concern is I would like to keep the dosages low and all the joint compounds seem pretty mild. Thanks guys!!

STATS:
Age-35
Height- 5'9
Weight-180
BF-11%

[widowmaker2]

why is eveyone one on a sust trip? i personaly hate the stuff..its painfull(if its real) and its ed or eod injections get old, fast. anyway google ARTHENOL, works wonders, trust me...WAIT A SECOND!! 325 mg of sust per week??? you mite as well throw that in the trash. not worth your time.. terrible cycle do some more research

[WARMachine]

I agree, there are a lot of guys doing Sus all of a sudden... 189 will comment on this eventually...

Age - 35
height - 5'9
weight - 180
BF% - 11%
diet summary/# meals per day ?
years lifting / workout split ?
cycle experience (including current one with dosege) 325mg for 12weeks(this cycle sucks!)
pct/estrogen control knowledge ?

What were you expecting to get outta this proposed cycle?

[sandan]

Thanks for the feedback. Remember, not everyones goals are the same... This works good for my specific training and has in the past. Of course I'm open to suggestions, there is alot of knowledge here.

[inky-e]

Bro, IMO the best thing for your joints is the deca , combined with sust you'll get some gains. The sust you might wanna bring up to 400mg's a week shooting it eod, the deca I'd go with 500mg's a week split in two shots. Your diet is gonna dictate your results, eliminate salt and fatty foods also sugar.

[WARMachine]

Agreed with Ink-E!

And what is your profession that is so hard on the joints?

You know your basically anonymous right? Just dont say your name and you should be fine, if someone does you know sees you here, guess what, you both have a new thing in common!

[LATS60]

why is eveyone one on a sust trip? i personaly hate the stuff..its painfull(if its real) and its ed or eod injections get old, fast. anyway google ARTHENOL, works wonders, trust me...WAIT A SECOND!! 325 mg of sust per week??? you mite as well throw that in the trash. not worth your time.. terrible cycle do some more research

What a load of crap.
Agree with inky, though i mix the sust and deca in the same barrel and shoot mon/thu.

[sandan]

Agreed with Ink-E!

And what is your profession that is so hard on the joints?

You know your basically anonymous right? Just dont say your name and you should be fine, if someone does you know sees you here, guess what, you both have a new thing in common!

Martial Arts training. Looks like we have something in common.

[LATS60]

As you haven't tried a test deca stack you don't know if you'll bloat a lot.
Any steroid that causes water to be held in the body is good for your joints, i'm not a fan of the idea of the take some deca it's good for your joints.

[CeeLo]

why is eveyone one on a sust trip? i personaly hate the stuff..its painfull(if its real) and its ed or eod injections get old, fast. anyway google ARTHENOL, works wonders, trust me...WAIT A SECOND!! 325 mg of sust per week??? you mite as well throw that in the trash. not worth your time.. terrible cycle do some more research

yeah, no need to knock the sust if you had a bad experience with it. I am loving it as my first cycle and I crave the needle like my next meal so I don't mind eod.

[widowmaker2]

What a load of crap.
Agree with inky, though i mix the sust and deca in the same barrel and shoot mon/thu.

so how is what i said a load of crap?? you just said you agree with ink-e..you dont agree that 325 mg of sust per week is an insufficient cycle?? you said yourself youd add deca .....am i missing somthing here??

[LATS60]

why is eveyone one on a sust trip? i personaly hate the stuff..its painfull(if its real) and its ed or eod injections get old, fast. anyway google ARTHENOL, works wonders, trust me...WAIT A SECOND!! 325 mg of sust per week??? you mite as well throw that in the trash. not worth your time.. terrible cycle do some more research

This was the post i quoted.

[inky-e]

What a load of crap.
Agree with inky, though i mix the sust and deca in the same barrel and shoot mon/thu.

Yup...that works too.

[widowmaker2]

This was the post i quoted.

yea, i posted it.. i know what it says.. do you agree with me that 325 mgs of sust per week is not a good cycle?? yes or no...if the answer is yes then s.t.f.u.

[CeeLo]

I think lats is disagreeing that sust is bad. I don't think he is disagreeing with the 325. I don't think 325 is enough either. I would do atleast 500.

[LATS60]

yea, i posted it.. i know what it says.. do you agree with me that 325 mgs of sust per week is not a good cycle?? yes or no...if the answer is yes then s.t.f.u.

I agree that 325mg of sust a wk is not a good cycle, i just disagree with your opinion on the pain front, it can sting a little, i think i noticed that my first ever couple of shots only.
And i strongly disagree with your idea of the pharmacokinetics of sustanon .

[LATS60]

I think lats is disagreeing that sust is bad. I don't think he is disagreeing with the 325. I don't think 325 is enough either. I would do atleast 500.

LOL, you read my mind mate.

[WARMachine]

Martial Arts training. Looks like we have something in common.

I have a fight in Oct. and i just opened my gym about 3 months ago...

Do you train MMA as well?