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    Question Fasting while on cycle, have i f***** up my cycle now?

    Hey guys,

    Just a quick question ive been cycling for 6 weeks, im on 500 mgs two times a week of test. My holy months started now so i have to fast from 4AM TO 8PM, I AINT ALLOWED NO FOOD OR WATER, so thats no food or water for over 16 hours a day, ill be fasting for 4 weeks, bringing me up to week 10 of my 12 week cycle.

    Is my cycle useless now what to do-
    1. should i continue at 500mgs a week?
    2. decrease the dose?
    3. or stop totally and start my pct in a week?
    4. or should i continue, and hope that ill still have weeks 10-12 to gain on cycle, even though i felt it kick in just about now during week 6.

    Cycle=test 500mgs week
    Cycle length= 12 weeks, on week 6,
    Cycle time lost(due to fasting)= 4 weeks, weeks 6-10
    Cycle time after fasting- weeks 10-12(2 weeks)



    Guys what should i do? Offer Good advice only, let’s give the sarcasm a miss this time round.

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    Is it possible to flip your schedule and stay up eating all night? I hope that's not construed as an affront to Allah. You knew Ramadan was coming, were you using a short ester test?
    Last edited by Ernst; 09-01-2008 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    Is it possible to flip your schedule and stay up eating all night? I hope that's not construed as an affront to Allah. Otherwise it seems you should just stop. You knew Ramadan was coming, were you using a short ester test?
    i can eat after 8, but like how much can u eat, you cant eat what youd eat in a day in 4 hours, im using test depot 250? dont know what ester that is, i didnt think ahead you see, id i knew ramadhan was coming i would have waited till after, so what do you think i should do? thanks

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    It’s definitely not the best time to run a cycle but I’d keep going because you don’t want to be in PCT and fasting.

    Your not going to make any gains during your fasting period but if you eat a huge amount at the times of day you are allowed to then you might at least be able to stop the catabolic effects of fasting.

    My advice:

    Stay on the cycle (you are not likely to gain during your fasting period but it will help fight catabolism)

    Keep workouts short and sweet (you don’t want to burn too many calories)

    Do zero cardio (same reason as above)

    Get as much food as you can during the times you can eat (If you could sleep at some point between 4am and 8pm that would mean you are awake more during the time you can eat and get in more meals)

    I’d also extend the cycle to 14 weeks that will give you 4 weeks on normal eating after fasting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    Is it possible to flip your schedule and stay up eating all night? I hope that's not construed as an affront to Allah. You knew Ramadan was coming, were you using a short ester test?
    I agree with staying up all night eatting (If he can)

    It must be a long ester as he said he just feels it kicking in at week 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme87 View Post
    It’s definitely not the best time to run a cycle but I’d keep going because you don’t want to be in PCT and fasting.

    Your not going to make any gains during your fasting period but if you eat a huge amount at the times of day you are allowed to then you might at least be able to stop the catabolic effects of fasting.

    My advice:

    Stay on the cycle (you are not likely to gain during your fasting period but it will help fight catabolism)

    Keep workouts short and sweet (you don’t want to burn too many calories)

    Do zero cardio (same reason as above)

    Get as much food as you can during the times you can eat (If you could sleep at some point between 4am and 8pm that would mean you are awake more during the time you can eat and get in more meals)

    I’d also extend the cycle to 14 weeks that will give you 4 weeks on normal eating after fasting.
    Exactly as above. I started writting out a rsponce beforee I read your reply and you said everything I was gonna say

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    I see. If you can't take in the nutrition the extra test is pointless IMO, regardless of ester. I'd just stop. You could just continue, or maybe do it blast and cruise style. In the future I highly recommend knowing what you are shooting into yourself. Test depot 250 sounds pretty generic, it doesn't say anywhere on the vial/amp/packaging what ester? You *really* need to be aware of the ester you are using. Protocol differs between different esters/blends. What was your planned pct?
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    thanks for that graeme, i wish i could stay up all night and eat, but unfortuneatly i cant. im just really annoyed as the test just started to kick in and im stuck in this dilemma now. im only going to train 3 times a week, 30 mins each workout, just to maintain strenght, im gna follow your advice and do no cardio, aint got the energy for that or the extra calories.

    if i take my cycle up to 14 weeks will it not have more effects on my body, or will i b ok, at present im not taking an anti estrogen, i have nolva and proviron but im waiting on my arimidix, is this ok?

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    "it doesn't say anywhere on the vial/amp/packaging what ester?"

    my contact gets his gear from pakistan and india so i dnt even know what it says. i cant really stop, id hate to give up, because that would be a waste of my time, gear and my hard work, im thinking of increasing the lenght of cycle to 14 weeks,

    my pct consists of nolva, proviron , and probably clomid,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmittyTheOX View Post
    Exactly as above. I started writting out a rsponce beforee I read your reply and you said everything I was gonna say
    Beat ya to the punch :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad1185 View Post
    thanks for that graeme, i wish i could stay up all night and eat, but unfortuneatly i cant. im just really annoyed as the test just started to kick in and im stuck in this dilemma now. im only going to train 3 times a week, 30 mins each workout, just to maintain strenght, im gna follow your advice and do no cardio, aint got the energy for that or the extra calories.

    if i take my cycle up to 14 weeks will it not have more effects on my body, or will i b ok, at present im not taking an anti estrogen, i have nolva and proviron but im waiting on my arimidix, is this ok?
    A 14 week cycle won’t be any more suppressive than a 12 week cycle, people stop at 12 weeks because that is when gains usualy stop but your situation is different.

    If you get signs of gyno you can use the novla to treat it.

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    bummer bro, good luck.

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    your wasting you time and money by not eating for 16 hours a day. stop the cycle and restart it after this holy month thing is over. if i were in your shoes i would say screw it and eat all freaking day. even though i dont practice i am cathloic and during lent cathloics dont eat meat on fridays but i sure the hell dont oblidge by that rule, i eat whatever i want whenever i want
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    I am fasting as well. It's actually 4:50 to 8 and as the days go by, it would eventually be 5:30 to 7. My advice is to eat a shitload at 4 am then at 8 pm, eat some carbs and protein then hit the gym (don't eat till you get full). Take your shake with carbs then when you get home, eat a meal (around 10pm). For me, after that meal I'll be eating only protein and fats. Also setting my alarm at 2am so i can have a shake then goto bed then wake up again at 4 for my huge meal.

    When you workout never do cardio and don't go too heavy. You have to maintain your muscle during this month. Lift around 60% what you normally lift and keep workouts short. I am going to keep my workouts at 30min if I could. I think supplements are going to be helpful during this month. Don't want to goto bed on a full stomach. Only month where I would use more than 2 shakes per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post
    your wasting you time and money by not eating for 16 hours a day. stop the cycle and restart it after this holy month thing is over. if i were in your shoes i would say screw it and eat all freaking day. even though i dont practice i am cathloic and during lent cathloics dont eat meat on fridays but i sure the hell dont oblidge by that rule, i eat whatever i want whenever i want

    pt we all cant be the way u are, if only we could lol. i cant screw the month, i have to do it, its religon and gives us a feel for how people in the world go without food,

    if i was to stop the test and do nothing all month, and not do a pct, then after fasting was over start my 6 weeks again and do a pct after that, is that possible? are you with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneco|d View Post
    I am fasting as well. It's actually 4:50 to 8 and as the days go by, it would eventually be 5:30 to 7. My advice is to eat a shitload at 4 am then at 8 pm, eat some carbs and protein then hit the gym (don't eat till you get full). Take your shake with carbs then when you get home, eat a meal (around 10pm). For me, after that meal I'll be eating only protein and fats. Also setting my alarm at 2am so i can have a shake then goto bed then wake up again at 4 for my huge meal.

    When you workout never do cardio and don't go too heavy. You have to maintain your muscle during this month. Lift around 60% what you normally lift and keep workouts short. I am going to keep my workouts at 30min if I could. I think supplements are going to be helpful during this month. Don't want to goto bed on a full stomach. Only month where I would use more than 2 shakes per day.
    yes the times do vary from country to country, here in the uk its 4am-8pm, and on most days its 15.5 to 16 hours for the whole 30 days.
    yes im going to keep my workouts very short, 30 mins tops, fanks for the advice, im going to stick with the 60% thing, that makes sense. good luck fasting bro, im struggling. i feel more hungry on cycle than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad1185 View Post
    i have to do it, its religon and gives us a feel for how people in the world go without food,
    LOL, starving people run testosterone cycles too?

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    heck id turn it into a cutting cycle and trim all your fat off.


    then at 12 weeks do your pct, start antoehr cycle when adviseable and gain some lean mass while being ripped

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme87 View Post
    It’s definitely not the best time to run a cycle but I’d keep going because you don’t want to be in PCT and fasting.

    Your not going to make any gains during your fasting period but if you eat a huge amount at the times of day you are allowed to then you might at least be able to stop the catabolic effects of fasting.

    My advice:

    Stay on the cycle (you are not likely to gain during your fasting period but it will help fight catabolism)

    Keep workouts short and sweet (you don’t want to burn too many calories)

    Do zero cardio (same reason as above)

    Get as much food as you can during the times you can eat (If you could sleep at some point between 4am and 8pm that would mean you are awake more during the time you can eat and get in more meals)

    I’d also extend the cycle to 14 weeks that will give you 4 weeks on normal eating after fasting.
    im on this^^

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    thats a long fasting. mine start @ 5am till 6pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad1185 View Post
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    You should have waited bro, thats what i am doing my cycle is all lined up just waiting for Ramadan to end..

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    Well I am going to wait at least 2 weeks after ramadan to cycle again because our diet will be messed up. We need to get back to our original diet and workout routine.

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    This is the exact reason why I hate religon. sorry if I disrespect anyone..but just eat..who gives a shit..

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    It's only one month in year. It's nothing really. My 4am meal is 2 scoops of whey, 2 cups of oats, 3-4 tablespoons of peanut butter, cup of coffee and tons of water. I don't really get hungry too which is good. Eating oatmeal in the morning does wonders. I went to the gym last night and I felt as strong but i did roughly 60% of my max with high reps. 5 sets of 15 reps each with 80lbs for flat-incline-decline.

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    Personally I wouldnt run a cycle in Ramadan. check the diet forum i have a diet that you can follow during the holy month..

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    if you can change your schedule what if you set an alarm and get up at like two and eat, that way your still brining in calories and dont into a calorie deficit

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    I have a friend that is fasting rightnow also for ramadan.....he told me he eats a ton boiled eggs and oatmeal at midnight then again before sunrise.....he also eat at at sunset....why can't you eat at again at sunset??? he is in the last 2 weeks of the his test e/primo cycle.

    I do wonder if PCT meds are ok during fasting? cause he told you are allowed to take scrip meds if uregently required....but without water???

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    I eat at 4 am, 8pm, gym at 8:30 pm, PWO at 9:30 pm, 11pm, 2 am

    I only need to set alarm at 2 am and 4 am

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