19 y/o officially entering the game

**Dream27** · 09-04-2008, 02:00 PM

Heres my story.

17 y/o coming up to senior year. Old hs all american friend shows me his little secret. Thinking i knew it all, i didnt even hesistate to jump on sust 250 with a d bol kick start. Hands down dumbest sh*t ive done thus far. BUT whats done is done. I did end up doing some research which is why i decided to lay off for a couple year. My endo claims my test is low and plates are closed. Im hardly growing (if at all). The Doc claims my exceptionally fast metabolism is the reason i have such a hard time tacking on lbs, but when i was on aas my diet was irresponsible and still managed to gain 25lbs. I only kept 15 and am currently at 5 '10 150. I knew my test levels were going to be low because i had all the sighns. Thinking down on myself, lower self esteem, way less motivated to do productive things, and also started smoking a bit to release my stress (i quit). Im not content with myself right now and i kind of feel theres no sense in waiting till my early twenties because i already cycled. If i do another cycle soon it will consist of test - e and tbol. Any advice is appreciated

**WARMachine** · 09-04-2008, 02:08 PM

Ok, dont do it...

Ask your Doc about HRT if your test levels are legitimatly low..

**Dream27** · 09-04-2008, 02:15 PM

dont do it as in wait a few more years or never again? i mean im so frustrated because i have this mind set that im already crossed to the dark side and it seems like if you do 1 you mind as well do 3. then agian, i can honestly say im a lot more educated and responsible to follow those types of mind sets. i really appreciate the advice btw

**WARMachine** · 09-04-2008, 02:18 PM

Dont do it till you gain about 30lbs and are 21 years old...

Do you want to ruin your test levels forever?

Youre only 150lbs!

Here, read this...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

**jstraw428** · 09-04-2008, 02:59 PM

Check out the diet and training forums.....there is lots of valuable info there that will help you start to gain weight naturally......

Post your complete stats????
diet???

**MuscleScience** · 09-04-2008, 03:24 PM

You should be injecting with foodbolin first. 19 is still to young in most peoples opinions.

**jstraw428** · 09-04-2008, 03:28 PM

I heard that foodbolin is some powrful stuff....

**WARMachine** · 09-04-2008, 03:50 PM

Oh it is JStraw...

I gained about 200lbs since the first time i took it...

Ive had my best results taking it 5-6times a day with plenty of water....

**bbuilder** · 09-04-2008, 04:09 PM

What's up with all these KIDS on this forum wanting to do juice.

Once things for sure, they are KIDS as they aren't (able???) reading the forums. If they would, they would be reading NOT to do juice at an early age.

**VR4** · 09-04-2008, 04:25 PM

I would run a fat PCT and see if you can get your natural test production back on track.
If so...stay off AAS for a couple more years before you think about starting again.

How long was your cycle?

**Flex-Appeal** · 09-04-2008, 04:26 PM

I did first cycle at twenty and regret it but all I can do is say no! Hold off you have the rest of ur life to do aas, don't ruin ur life so early

**WARMachine** · 09-04-2008, 04:30 PM

Ruin your life? Thats a bit strong id say...

Its not the end of the world if you mess up and do a cycle too young...

It just means your Test levels might be f'd

BG · 09-04-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Ok, dont do it...

Ask your Doc about HRT if your test levels are legitimatly low..

Highly doubt they will perscribe a 19 yr old hrt.

I would try to run another pct.

**muhammad1185** · 09-04-2008, 04:32 PM

bro leave it out, it aint worth the headache, train hard and eat well, youll get results. trust me its not all about gear. anyone offering sensible advice would agree

**WARMachine** · 09-04-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Highly doubt they will perscribe a 19 yr old hrt.

I know that... Just a response to what he iterated...

Originally Posted by Dream27

My endo claims my test is low and plates are closed. Im hardly growing (if at all). The Doc claims my exceptionally fast metabolism is the reason i have such a hard time tacking on lbs, but when i was on aas my diet was irresponsible and still managed to gain 25lbs.

**inky-e** · 09-04-2008, 04:35 PM

I guess the damage you did first time around wasn't enough huh....wanna go for more?

**Dream27** · 09-05-2008, 11:17 AM

nah i was just thinking all the bad possibilities are going to happend because i already cycled but i guess thats not necessarily true and another will just make it worse.....thanks for the advice everyone, im pretty sure im going clean for a while but still expect posts in the mean time. any advice for supplements that arent aas related?

**WARMachine** · 09-05-2008, 11:20 AM

NO2 and creatine...

Stick the simple things... Youre liver will thank you...

**ghettoboyd** · 09-05-2008, 11:43 AM

this shit is nuts,everyday some kid comes on her talking about a cycle. i thought congress was going over the top a bit with thinking that steroids in school is a problem but obviously it is. 5'10" 150lbs after a cycle WTF! learn how to eat and exercise properly before you go diving into another cycle man. there is alot of info on here,us it.

**WARMachine** · 09-05-2008, 11:45 AM

^^^ Dude chill out... No need to jump down the kids throat, we've already done that hehe(sorry you missed out)

Hes on the right track now...

**bbuilder** · 09-05-2008, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

this shit is nuts,everyday some kid comes on her talking about a cycle. i thought congress was going over the top a bit with thinking that steroids in school is a problem but obviously it is. 5'10" 150lbs after a cycle WTF! learn how to eat and exercise properly before you go diving into another cycle man. there is alot of info on here,us it.

I agree 100%. Why can't these KIDS read this forum?????

I'd suggest before working out and eating correctly, they learn HOW TO READ AND USE THIS FANTASTIC BUTTON CALLED "SEARCH"

**ghettoboyd** · 09-05-2008, 12:55 PM

right on bro,sorry if i sounded like a dick but i actually care.i find this troubling.

**bbuilder** · 09-05-2008, 01:10 PM

Agreed 100%. I think they (the kids) think we are out to give them false information, when in reality it's the opposite. If that were the case, we'd be telling them to run 5g's of test a week.

EAT RIGHT, TRAIN RIGHT, GROW, wait till about 25, then ask questions about juice. Really that simple.

**ghettoboyd** · 09-05-2008, 01:12 PM

agreed bro.

**ghettoboyd** · 09-05-2008, 01:13 PM

the sad thing is is most of them get there advise from a "friend" and thay tend to belive there friend cus we r not telling them what thay want to hear.

**inky-e** · 09-05-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dream27

nah i was just thinking all the bad possibilities are going to happend because i already cycled but i guess thats not necessarily true and another will just make it worse.....thanks for the advice everyone, im pretty sure im going clean for a while but still expect posts in the mean time. any advice for supplements that arent aas related?

Now you're using your head pal...good decision...hope all goes well for ya.................Inky

**A&FGuy** · 09-08-2008, 08:47 AM

Coming from someone who also made the mistake of starting AAS at 19, I stopped use, got myself back in check i.e. (a serious pct to re-establish natty test levels, proper diet and work out plan) That is the only way too go really, I have talked to doctors and the only thing they will tell you is to wait until its out of your system. Ive been off for 3 years or so and feeling better than ever. Learn from your mistakes, dont add to them.

**SkyDiver73** · 09-08-2008, 11:39 AM

This is what you have written:

Im not content with myself right now and i kind of feel theres no sense in waiting till my early twenties because i already cycled. If i do another cycle soon it will consist of test - e and tbol. Any advice is appreciated

This is what I write to YOU:

When I was at your age I had a father who brought me everyday to do physical activities teaching me the meaning of making a sport, whatever one's choose.
Reading that at 17yo young man wants to squeeze is health makes me remaind how like I was to have had such a father, but mostly how lucky I was to have listened to his own advices.
I do not want you to tire you with the story of my life but just trying to make you ponder about the HUGE step you are going to make. If at first you did not succeed (to "badly manipulate your genetics)", consider yourself lucky indeed. The fact you already had another cycle should let you think how lucky you were not having gotten any severe side effects! and not giving you the ultimate power to risk your health once more.
Wait, Wait, and then wait again till you are at least 25 and adult (it does not necessarily mean at 25) and in the meanwhile do what I did with great results, eat good, do aerobics activities, if you can swim twice a week and workout.

I learnt that real results can be accomplished ONLY with good attitude and TIME!

Ciao

PS
Rely on science.