help with 3rd cycle

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 07:22 PM

Can I get some advice on my third cycle and cheers in advance. I've got 36 amps of Paki sust 250, 30 ml's of deca 300 (3 vials), winny tabs and d-bol tabs both at 50 mg's

I was thinking of the following:

Weeks 1-12 - 750 week of sust 250 (215 mg's eod)
Weeks 1-10 - 600 week deca 300 (205 mg's eod)
Weeks 1-4 - d-bol 50 mg's a day or
winny tabs 50 a day last 4 weeks of cycle

PCT, diet and training in order. Cheers

PS, I have the option of changing the deca for 30 mls of tren 75mg but this would only give me 8 weeks worth of tren.

Any suggestions from the more experineced memebers would be great, Big? What do you think bro?

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 07:40 PM

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**oker** · 09-05-2008, 08:13 PM

anyone???

**stallion_1** · 09-05-2008, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by oker

Can I get some advice on my third cycle and cheers in advance. I've got 36 amps of Paki sust 250, 30 ml's of deca 300 (3 vials), winny tabs and d-bol tabs both at 50 mg's

I was thinking of the following:

Weeks 1-12 - 750 week of sust 250 (215 mg's eod)
Weeks 1-10 - 600 week deca 300 (205 mg's eod)
Weeks 1-4 - d-bol 50 mg's a day or
winny tabs 50 a day last 4 weeks of cycle

PCT, diet and training in order. Cheers

PS, I have the option of changing the deca for 30 mls of tren 75mg but this would only give me 8 weeks worth of tren.

Any suggestions from the more experineced memebers would be great, Big? What do you think bro?

that seems to be a solid cycle, except id do 5 weeks of dbol at like 35-40 mg ed. other than that u got a good cycle.

but hopefully u got a solid pct

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

that seems to be a solid cycle, except id do 5 weeks of dbol at like 35-40 mg ed. other than that u got a good cycle.

but hopefully u got a solid pct

Cheers S1, yep pct includes nolva, clomid, arimidex , and HCG . So you don't think much of the tren then?

**stallion_1** · 09-05-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by oker

Cheers S1, yep pct includes nolva, clomid, arimidex, and HCG. So you don't think much of the tren then?

either deca or tren will give excellent results.
if u have tren acetate, then u can run that for 8 weeks but if u have tren enth then that must be run for at least 10 weeks. but u gotta be ready for tren side effects as it is very powerful. id stick with the deca

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Weeks 1-12 - 750 week of sust 250 (215 mg's eod)

how are you going to measure 0.86mL?

Weeks 1-10 - 600 week deca 300 (205 mg's eod)

0.68333...mL?

Weeks 1-4 - d-bol 50 mg's a day or
winny tabs 50 a day last 4 weeks of cycle

good

PCT, diet and training in order. Cheers

lets see the pct

Any suggestions from the more experineced memebers would be great, Big? What do you think bro?

my dog is on vacation he wont be posting here

**Phate** · 09-05-2008, 08:57 PM

lets see your pct(for one8nine to critique) and your diet(cause i'm bored and want to critique it)

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

how are you going to measure 0.86mL?

0.68333...mL?

good

lets see the pct

my dog is on vacation he wont be posting here

just round em up bro, not to difficult....lol the last part

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by oker

just round em up bro, not to difficult....lol the last part

probably easiest to just aim at 1ml sust and 0.75mL deca eod?
might cut the cycle a week short

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

lets see your pct(for one8nine to critique) and your diet(cause i'm bored and want to critique it)

haha
im going to just start pming you all the bad diets when youre off and im on

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

lets see your pct(for one8nine to critique) and your diet(cause i'm bored and want to critique it)

PCT mentioned in #5, but more specifically - HCG last 2 weeks of cycle 500 iu every 2 days. Using Pheedno's PCT (nolva, clomid and a-dex)

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

probably easiest to just aim at 1ml sust and 0.75mg deca eod?
might cut the cycle a week short

Makes sense though, cheers bro

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by oker

PCT mentioned in #5, but more specifically - HCG last 2 weeks of cycle 500 iu every 2 days. Using Pheedno's PCT (Volva, clomid and a-dex)

with all due respect to the guy- that pct needs work
the clomid is way too high, 25mg is more than plenty ed
also adex's effectiveness is decreased by nolva- use aromasin or proviron instead

**Phate** · 09-05-2008, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

haha
im going to just start pming you all the bad diets when youre off and im on

go for it bro, i'll help however i can, just make sure i know who to send it too, i'd be happy to help you/barbie/rockstar with yours too if you want, though it would take me longer than normal cause i'd go over it a ton and make sure it's perfect

**one8nine** · 09-05-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

go for it bro, i'll help however i can, just make sure i know who to send it too, i'd be happy to help you/barbie/rockstar with yours too if you want, though it would take me longer than normal cause i'd go over it a ton and make sure it's perfect

very nice
they need serious help- but the problem is they dont care as much ha. ill pm you now? k.

**Phate** · 09-05-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

very nice
they need serious help- but the problem is they dont care as much ha. ill pm you now? k.

kool with me

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 10:24 PM

Anyone have an opinion on swapping the deca for tren at 75 mg's eod? or stick with the deca?

**Phate** · 09-05-2008, 10:27 PM

if you want to lean out while on cycle then tren would be a better choice than deca , if you want to bulk than deca is a better choice, tren will allow you to drop bf while putting on mass, just depends on what you want out of it

**oker** · 09-05-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

if you want to lean out while on cycle then tren would be a better choice than deca, if you want to bulk than deca is a better choice, tren will allow you to drop bf while putting on mass, just depends on what you want out of it

Sorry bro I should have been more specific, as I know deca is a bulker and tren is a cutter - I'm more concerned with the sides resulting from tren and your personal experiences with it? I've used deca before (at 12 weeks) and I don't like the way it shuts me down, so running it this time at 9 weeks maybe a better option for me.

**one8nine** · 09-06-2008, 09:26 AM

if you cant pin tren ED then just skip it

**oker** · 09-06-2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

if you cant pin tren ED then just skip it

I don't believe I said anything about "pinning" but I was asking about "sides", for example, the tren cough...thanks for the tip but I have no problems with pinning daily or EOD.

**lcstriker07** · 09-07-2008, 06:08 AM

Then switch to prop and tren and save some green. It's a better option than sust.

**oker** · 09-07-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by lcstriker07

Then switch to prop and tren and save some green. It's a better option than sust.

Actually sust 250 is cheap here, I can get it for (edited) an amp and it's factory grade, prop here is generic and it would cost me almost (edited) bucks more for a decent cycle.

**one8nine** · 09-07-2008, 10:37 PM

please edit prices out- but thats cheap as hell

tren will give you much less sies and much better reslts using it every day, compared to eod

**oker** · 09-09-2008, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

please edit prices out- but thats cheap as hell

tren will give you much less sies and much better reslts using it every day, compared to eod

Prices edited bro, I got the tren - my supplier came up with it after all. Gonna do 250mg sust and 100 mg tren e every second day. If I did every day what would be a sufficient amount of tren? 50 mg a day with 125 mg sust??