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    Nolvadex and Arimidex at the same time

    I'm just Finishing an 8 week cycle

    Week 1-8
    100mg Prop & 100mg Masteron Every OTHER Day,
    50mg Winny Tab EVERY DAY (split 25 mgs at a time.)
    .50 Mgs arimidex ED

    NOw im finishing this up and slowing down the intake of the Test and Mast to every 4 days and stopped taking the winny.

    i'll be starting my PCT soon

    Should i be taking Nolvadex 20mgs every day now or Arimidex or both?

    this is the PCT i'll be doing when should i start?

    Week# Nolvadex/HCG /Aromasin /Vitamin E

    1- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    2- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    3- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    4- 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5- 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6- 20mgs/day

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    why would you now wait 4days between injects??thats really bad when using short esters bro,levels will be all over the show,when you decide to stop...stop!start pct the next day.pct looks pretty good imo id replace the aromasin with 50mg proviron ,but that just works well for me.how where your results on cycle?

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    nolvadex decreases the effectiveness of arimidex and letro....decreses your bloodserum levels of these compounds......if you want to take a serm and a AI then you should maybe switch to aromasin ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly View Post
    I'm just Finishing an 8 week cycle

    Week 1-8
    100mg Prop & 100mg Masteron Every OTHER Day,
    50mg Winny Tab EVERY DAY (split 25 mgs at a time.)
    .50 Mgs arimidex ED
    Drop the adex and get letro.. run at .25mg ED
    IMO, u should man up and pin ED the Prop/Mast; however, if pinning EOD is working for ya then that's k!

    NOw im finishing this up and slowing down the intake of the Test and Mast to every 4 days and stopped taking the winny.
    Wrong... you don't have to tapered down. Why are you trying to tappered down? You'll get far better results with stable dosage through end on cycle.

    i'll be starting my PCT soon

    Should i be taking Nolvadex 20mgs every day now or Arimidex or both?

    this is the PCT i'll be doing when should i start?

    Week# Nolvadex/HCG /Aromasin /Vitamin E

    1- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    2- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    3- 20mgs/day,500iu/day,20-25mgs/day,1000iu/day
    4- 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5- 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6- 20mgs/day
    -Need to start PCT 3 days after last Prop/Mast shot.
    -Yes, you need to run Nolva ED at 20mgs. Also, I really recommend you add some clomid at 25mgs in there to help HPTA levels.
    -I would rather includ Clomid than Aromasin (Aromasin should be replaced by the Letro on cycle ED).
    -You don't need the hCG, IMO. Some will say you do, but your cycle is won't be that supressive on your levels like other advanced cycles.
    -The 1000IUs Vit. E is too high bro; drop that to between 250 - 500ius ED or do 1000ius E3d or E3.5ds

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakish View Post
    why would you now wait 4days between injects??thats really bad when using short esters bro,levels will be all over the show,when you decide to stop...stop!start pct the next day.pct looks pretty good imo id replace the aromasin with 50mg proviron,but that just works well for me.how where your results on cycle?
    True... Prop/Mast should be pinned ED.

    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw428 View Post
    nolvadex decreases the effectiveness of arimidex and letro....decreses your bloodserum levels of these compounds......if you want to take a serm and a AI then you should maybe switch to aromasin...
    Right on jst! Completely agree...

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    that is a killer avvy.......

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    i run both adex (.25) and nolvadex (10mg) ed during cycle.. have done this for some time. adex has a negative effect on lipid profile.. nolvadex helps with this.
    nolvadex does causes a 37% reduction in letro blood plasma levels .
    nolvadex acts like estrogen in some tissues and has many estrogenic effects (eg raising SHBG levels) as well as antiestrogenic effects (like the one you want, competitively inhibiting estrogen binding in breast tissue).
    i choose to run both

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    nolvadex also decreases the blood serum level of arimidex .......plus arimidex is safe to run for extended peroids of time without too much difference in liped profile.....at least not enough to warrant the use of nolva at the same time....save it for PCT

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    I know there's another thread that addresses this, and I think the magic number for the decrease in arimidex , because of nolvadex , was 27%(?) in blood plasma levels. (I know I'm messing up the structure and terminology, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.)

    That said, couldn't you just up the dose from 50mg to 75mg to account for the decrease?

    If there's something I'm missing let me know.

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