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    Steroids and gastric bypass

    Does anyone know if it is safe to use after a gastric bypass

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    probably not

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    I have no clue but I thought about it and it sure doesn't sound safe to lose weight that quickly then to pack on lbs immediately. I would check with your doctor because that's something that you shouldn't mess with IMO.

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    after gbs for the rest of your life you will be eating like a bird...no where near enuff food consumption to get any kind of gains...most of your nutients are takin in pill form..it would be a total waste to even fathum think about using gear...u need to be able to eat and eat alot...waste of your time and money..sorry to be the bearer of bad news

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    I'm not an expert and not a doctor. With that being said, I don't see why a moderate cycle of a lower dose of test would be bad. Maybe 300-500 mgs a week of a longer ester test. You would have to drink protein shakes a lot to supplement protein intake but if you are NOT looking to pack on 15 lbs of mass, then I'd say go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitz5785 View Post
    I'm not an expert and not a doctor. With that being said, I don't see why a moderate cycle of a lower dose of test would be bad. Maybe 300-500 mgs a week of a longer ester test. You would have to drink protein shakes a lot to supplement protein intake but if you are NOT looking to pack on 15 lbs of mass, then I'd say go for it.
    well 1st of all because a low dose of test is almost pointless.. and since your stomach is about the size of an egg, calorie consumption even when cutting plays a major factor. i have not one but 2 ppl i work with who have had the surgery and dont get me wrong they look a ton better. but they also take about 10 different pills a day and eat like birds..and your absolutly right your not a doctor and have no idea what your talking about ,so dont give this person bad advice and say its ok to use gear, we are all here to help one another out.

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    ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by fusion600 View Post
    after gbs for the rest of your life you will be eating like a bird...no where near enuff food consumption to get any kind of gains...most of your nutients are takin in pill form..it would be a total waste to even fathum think about using gear...u need to be able to eat and eat alot...waste of your time and money..sorry to be the bearer of bad news
    on the money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnykenney View Post
    on the money!
    dude eat something, ur too damn skinny

    u shouldnt try ass

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    no

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitz5785 View Post
    I'm not an expert and not a doctor. With that being said, I don't see why a moderate cycle of a lower dose of test would be bad. Maybe 300-500 mgs a week of a longer ester test. You would have to drink protein shakes a lot to supplement protein intake but if you are NOT looking to pack on 15 lbs of mass, then I'd say go for it.
    is that nitz or nuts.LOL!!!!!

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    what

    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    dude eat something, ur too damn skinny

    u shouldnt try ass
    where are you coming from with this crap?
    195 and counting

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnykenney View Post
    where are you coming from with this crap?
    195 and counting
    i was referring by ur avi


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    ooops!

    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    i was referring by ur avi

    me>LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fusion600;41[B
    94032]after gbs for the rest of your life you will be eating like a bird.[/B]..no where near enuff food consumption to get any kind of gains...most of your nutients are takin in pill form..it would be a total waste to even fathum think about using gear...u need to be able to eat and eat alot...waste of your time and money..sorry to be the bearer of bad news
    Not true my friend, The stomach stretches and you will be able to consume more. That is why so many people gain the weight back post WLS(weight loss surgery). Actually the surgery is just a tool to help people lose weight for the first year or so. Also many doctors prescribe testosterone for their male patients after the surgery. As far as getting most nutrients in pill form another misconception. Granted the body will not absorb as much as pre-op, but it gets enough through food to allow the patient to live a normal life. The pills the patients take are usually vitamins...One a day type and also..believe it or not Flintstone chewables..as many as 10 a day. How do I know all of this??? First hand experience and I have cycled plenty...and gotten great results.
    Last edited by inky-e; 09-13-2008 at 10:05 PM.

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    why would anyone needing this surgery take gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    Not true my friend, The stomach stretches and you will be able to consume more. That is why so many people gain the weight back post WLS(weight loss surgery). Actually the surgery is just a tool to help people lose weight for the first year or so. Also many doctors prescribe testosterone for their male patients after the surgery. As far as getting most nutrients in pill form another misconception. Granted the body will not absorb as much as pre-op, but it gets enough through food to allow the patient to live a normal life. The pills the patients take are usually vitamins...One a day type and also..believe it or not Flintstone chewables..as many as 10 a day. How do I know all of this??? First hand experience and I have cycled plenty...and gotten great results.
    A post with REAL first hand experience......refreshing.

    Low dose test will offer some benefit as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    A post with REAL first hand experience......refreshing.

    Low dose test will offer some benefit as well.
    Thank you and I was sharing my opinion. It is his choice whether to follow it or not. All too often you people seem to think everyone is a pro looking to put on 20 lbs a cycle. A low dose of test IS beneficial and I have used low doses of test when off cycle to boost fat burning and/or minor gains.

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    My last cycle I put on 22 lbs of mostly muscle...test 750 mg's a week and deca 500 mg's a week the cycle lasted 18 weeks...I kept 17 of those lbs..after PCT. Right now I'm on test/tren /d-bol...goal is to put on a few lb's of lean solid muscle without fat gain....people already are telling me I look bigger...my arms are getting real nice...I'd l;ike to get them to about 18-19"s cold...I'm actually pretty close right now....BTW......I love TREN!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahaha

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    work ethic

    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    Not true my friend, The stomach stretches and you will be able to consume more. That is why so many people gain the weight back post WLS(weight loss surgery). Actually the surgery is just a tool to help people lose weight for the first year or so. Also many doctors prescribe testosterone for their male patients after the surgery. As far as getting most nutrients in pill form another misconception. Granted the body will not absorb as much as pre-op, but it gets enough through food to allow the patient to live a normal life. The pills the patients take are usually vitamins...One a day type and also..believe it or not Flintstone chewables..as many as 10 a day. How do I know all of this??? First hand experience and I have cycled plenty...and gotten great results.
    so you suggest him going under the knife to make his stomach smaller to lose weight and then turn around and eat a lot to basically reverse the surgery by eating like a pig to streach his stomach back to size?

    also being out of shape already I am worried about him sticking with a workout routine.
    I am not saying he cant change but his problem seems to be work ethic and diet! (fix these 2 things and he wont need the surgery)
    I have 2 friends that have had the surgery and one of them is well on his way to being a sloppy looking fat pig again from this exact situation.
    he got his stomach streached out by slowly eating more and more and now he eats like a pig and does nothing for exercise!
    IMO any doctor that does this surgery without making sure the patient has tried a lot of other ways to lose weight and goes to a nutritionist first is just in it for the money and does not care about his patients well being!

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    Hey Inky, I've had the surgery and am looking to hear up. I would love to chat with you...

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    Inky, I would love the opportunity to talk to you about this subject.

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