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09-23-2008, 04:12 PM #1
tren/ prop disappointment follow up
A few days ago I posted that my cycle was yielding disappointing results and asked advice on the culprit. I decided to drop the aromisin and propecia. And a few days later (2 maybe) Its kicked back in. My libido is back. And size, strength and motivation are where they should be. Not likely a plecebo effect. So now I'm asking, too much AI or propecia. I'd like some opinions...Thanks.
100mgs tren ed
100 mgs prop ed
20 mgs aromisin ed
1 mg propecia ed
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09-24-2008, 12:24 PM #2Associate Member
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It's probably the propecia.
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09-24-2008, 01:29 PM #3Associate Member
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ive got to agree. ive been on propecia for 1year now however due to circumstances i stopped taking about 6wk ago and ive got to admit my gains are getting a lot better
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09-24-2008, 01:39 PM #4
Could be the propecia, but that Aromasin on cycle could potentially be the reason why the small gains/lack of motivation on cycle. Though it's low, still could be it.
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09-24-2008, 02:58 PM #5
Probably a combination of both. Hard to tell though. The aromasin dropping your estrogen levels by as much as 80%. And the propecia blocking DHT which is actually more potent than testosterone . Its a tricky subject
Last edited by Reed; 09-24-2008 at 03:30 PM.
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09-24-2008, 03:02 PM #6
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09-24-2008, 03:28 PM #7
Yes but poor choice of words on my part, I meant potent not anabolic .
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09-24-2008, 03:36 PM #8
any recommendations on reintroducing either compound at a lesser dosage or eod??
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09-24-2008, 03:40 PM #9
If that were the case you could cycle proviron and get great gains.
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09-24-2008, 03:41 PM #10
^ lmao
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09-24-2008, 03:43 PM #11
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09-24-2008, 03:52 PM #12
Let me explain better:
DHT is a stronger androgen and binds to the receptor 3-5 times more strong than testosterone . Blocking the formation of DHT cause in some individuals to have significantly reduced performance effects. More than likely it is caused by the reduction of androgenic effects in other parts of the body that contribute to the ergogenic effects, specially the CNS, which is stimulated by androgens to increase neural output leading to greater strength and recoverability.
There you happy
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09-24-2008, 03:56 PM #13
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09-24-2008, 03:58 PM #14
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09-24-2008, 04:00 PM #15
Too much buffalo meat... haha
Dude i tracked down a place that sells it. They want 6.99 a pound! I was like "I can eat top sirloin steak for that!"
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09-24-2008, 04:02 PM #16Member
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09-24-2008, 04:04 PM #17Associate Member
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Conclusion: Androgens rule!
Yankeebstrd: Only introduce them again if you're experiencing androgenic or estrogenic side effects.
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09-24-2008, 04:05 PM #18Member
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09-24-2008, 04:08 PM #19
.... Dont you know my boy is super smart?
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09-24-2008, 04:11 PM #20
Again as stated, it is very tricky. I assume your using the propecia due to the history of male pattern baldness in your family correct?? DHT has anti-estrogen effects and blocking DHT can cause increased estrogen. And now you know that estrogen is more about control than anything so you don't want to reduce your levels by 80%. See this is where blood work is so handy. You can check your estradiol and you can also get your DHT levels checked. I can't give you any sure-fire way of knowing what will happen. Maybe others can chime in and offer you in sight on their experiences with different doses. There are studies that say there is a significant drop in DHT from just 0.2mg of finasteride. Look into arimidex or lowering the dose of the aromasin as well.
Sorry I can't be more of a helpLast edited by Reed; 09-24-2008 at 04:24 PM.
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09-24-2008, 04:13 PM #21
Man I was trying to type out all this and then I get 5 post without my knowledge. haha
I'm trying my best people.
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