deca or tren e?

[rampage12]

ok so im putting togeather a new bulking cycle to do in a few months. im considering test e and either deca or tren e? which would put on more mass and strength gains? ive had a few past cycles of test and deca. right now im 27 6' 214lb... also was wanting to know if i needed to get bromo to take during cycle? and which would yall recomend for first few weeks of cycle? tbol,dbol or drol?

[Big]

everyone is different, I prefer tren to deca and drol to dbol or tbol, but that's just based on how the compounds affect me. 10 different people could have 10 different sets of results, so you won't really know which works best for you until you eventually try each.

[jethro1]

everyone is different, I prefer tren to deca and drol to dbol or tbol, but that's just based on how the compounds affect me. 10 different people could have 10 different sets of results, so you won't really know which works best for you until you eventually try each.

Excellent advice.

[rampage12]

y do you prefer the tren over deca ? and ill probably go with drol instead of dbol ...dbol kills my appetite.

[vindication]

tren does not aromatize, and it will provide more solid gains. however, I believe both of these are 19 nor steroids , which will probably shut you down to a degree. the deca will definately blow you up a bit, some water, and will cause more sides in my experience.

[rampage12]

im considering doing wk1-4 drol 100mg ed..wk1-14 test e 750mg..wk1-12 deca 600mg...

[god-send]

very nice cycle indeed.

you might want to get some hcg and adex for that cycle.

[inky-e]

I've had great results with test/deca in the past.....currently on test/tren and really like it alot....I used dbol first 4 weeks. Tren gives me more strength gains.

[warchild]

tren is bomb

[DEVLDOG]

why choose,use all 3... I prefer Tren A,its easier to adjust dosages,can be done on a day to day bases. I personally start low at 80mg or whatever your dose is if its homebrew.stay there for 3 days,bump it 20mg every 3 days until the sides are unbearable ,for me usually around 180mg/edthen back it down a notch to where you just get the chills one minute,sweating your balls off the next and sleeping 45min a day...then your good to go!!!

just hate the damn cough,the last time i ran it I swear i got it everyday..too much BA,thats all that is,change out pin from the one you withdraw with to the one you inject,should help prevent it.

[redz]

I love Tren !

[Flex-Appeal]

why choose,use all 3... I prefer Tren A,its easier to adjust dosages,can be done on a day to day bases. I personally start low at 80mg or whatever your dose is if its homebrew.stay there for 3 days,bump it 20mg every 3 days until the sides are unbearable ,for me usually around 180mg/edthen back it down a notch to where you just get the chills one minute,sweating your balls off the next and sleeping 45min a day...then your good to go!!!

just hate the damn cough,the last time i ran it I swear i got it everyday..too much BA,thats all that is,change out pin from the one you withdraw with to the one you inject,should help prevent it.

I agree bro. I didn't want to chose so I chose them all test e deca tren e mast enth winny and dbol . Now I'm almost at 2g a week with zero sides thanks to letro.
So many compounds may not work for you lie it does for me. Take both then reduce a compound or mg dose as sides get out of control.

[Flex-Appeal]

oh yea dbol at 50mgs ed was very over rated for myself.
Will try drol next time. Orals may suppress appatite too.
See what works for you

[firmechicano831]

great info here. My next cycle will be tren , and winny.

[Flex-Appeal]

great info here. My next cycle will be tren, and winny.

I can predict this, your strength will be out the roof with those compounds

[rampage12]

ok well im more interested in strength than size so i might go with tren e instead ..what would be good dose?

[rampage12]

i have adex on hand incase

[vishus]

tren gives you a harder look, and deca has a little water retention with with it. ide go with deca if you're going to bulk, itll get you big quick. just gotta make sure you dont mind being limp for 3 months

[rampage12]

well i ran test and deca last cycle and dint run strong enough pct so my dick still doesnt work right... im more interested in strength then mass but there is also price difference which is big deal

[Big]

well i ran test and deca last cycle and dint run strong enough pct so my dick still doesnt work right... im more interested in strength then mass but there is also price difference which is big deal

you should get that sorted, get bloodwork and make sure you're back to normal before cycling or you will exacerbate the situation.

[Ashop]

ok so im putting togeather a new bulking cycle to do in a few months. im considering test e and either deca or tren e? which would put on more mass and strength gains? ive had a few past cycles of test and deca. right now im 27 6' 214lb... also was wanting to know if i needed to get bromo to take during cycle? and which would yall recomend for first few weeks of cycle? tbol,dbol or drol?

either will work for you well if training and diet are correct.

[Big]

y do you prefer the tren over deca? and ill probably go with drol instead of dbol...dbol kills my appetite.

personally I just like the way tren affects me more, but that's not to say I don't like deca . same diet and training, I stay more vascular on tren than deca.

[rampage12]

im not starting cycle for another 3 months just want to get everything i need now...

[vishus]

well i ran test and deca last cycle and dint run strong enough pct so my dick still doesnt work right... im more interested in strength then mass but there is also price difference which is big deal

then tren would be your choice for strength, youll also lose some BF while on it too. good luck

[Flex-Appeal]

you need to have your pituitary checked out before you start sticking tren or any compound in your body
you mentioned penis problems...

[DEVLDOG]

i ONLY USE DECA FOR ITS COLLOGEN RESYSNTHSIS PROPERTIES,OTHER THEN THAT i FEEL ITS A WEAK DRUG AND THERE ARE BETTER CHOICES FOR THE $$

[fattymcbutterpants]

i like tren more, my bench just made close to a 40lb jump in the week it fully kicked in. Weights feel so much lighter that are normally heavy

[rampage12]

well i f i ran tren e what would be good dose? what if i went with eq instead of deca or tren? anyone like it better?

[redz]

Tren E is good at 400mg/week split into 2 injects.

[inky-e]

I love Tren!

Hey mofo!! Thats my line!!! lol

[rampage12]

anyone have an opinion on the eq?

[WARMachine]

EQ sucks...

Even when run correctly (500mgs+ for 14 wks) it doesnt do much for most. Gives you a vascular look i suppose, but not much on strength or size IMO.

Tren and Deca are far superior compounds.

However if this is your first cycle, i wouldnt recommend either for you.

Deca and Tren both are generally considered "advanced compounds".

A simple Test E or C cycle is best suited for first time use.

[rampage12]

its not first as stated above its 5th.. i did test deca and dbol on last cycle

[DEVLDOG]

anyone have an opinion on the eq?

I personally like EQ it stimulates the appetite and thats esp helpful when running dbol or drol since those two seem to kill it..as far as vascularity,if your not genetically vascular and have low bf% no drug in the world will make you vascular

[WARMachine]

Sorry i didnt see that...

If you didnt like your gains on Deca try out the Tren .

Personally ive never used Deca for certain reasons. But i can tell you Tren A is by FAR my favorite AAS.

[WARMachine]

I personally like EQ it stimulates the appetite and thats esp helpful when running dbol or drol since those two seem to kill it..as far as vascularity,if your not genetically vascular and have low bf% no drug in the world will make you vascular

Adding certain drugs to merley help your appetite seems pointless IMO. No point throwing in worthless compounds just because it helps a surpressed appetite. JMO.

And obviously if you dont have low BF% you wont look vascular. The higher your BF% the less def. your going to show. I thought that went without saying. Sorry for the confusion.

[rampage12]

ok so im gonna go with test deca and drol.. nolva aromasin and hcg pct..im going to go with deca because of price difference of it and tren e..but i will try tren in future

[WARMachine]

Whats your doses and lengths?

How are you running HCG ? Everyone seems to have their own way, mine is 2 weeks before cycle ends and two weeks into PCT.

[rampage12]

heres my plan...
wk1-4 drol 100mg ed
wk1-16 test e 750mg
wk1-14 deca 600mg
adex incase of sides
hcg last 2 wks up too pct at 500iu eod
wk19-24 nolva 20mg ed
wk19-22 aromasin 20mg ed
i may cut cycle back too 14 wks

[WARMachine]

Is there a reason for why you run the doses so high?

How many cycles have you done?

Few stats if you dont mind...
age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)