How suppressive is dbol?

**FuPayMe** · 10-10-2008, 10:41 PM

Compared to test e/c, how suppressive is dbol ? I would think its less seeing how 4 to 6 weeks isnt enough time to be shut down.

**stpete** · 10-10-2008, 10:44 PM

It's not. Depends on the other stuff.

**rhino1** · 10-10-2008, 10:47 PM

dose dependant

**FuPayMe** · 10-10-2008, 10:54 PM

wow i love this board you bros reply fast.

By its not, i assume you mean its not as suppressive as oils.

say the dose is 25mg a day, for 4 to 6 weeks

**stpete** · 10-10-2008, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by FuPayMe

wow i love this board you bros reply fast.

By its not, i assume you mean its not as suppressive as oils.

say the dose is 25mg a day, for 4 to 6 weeks

Give us your stats.
Better gauge of things.

**Phate** · 10-10-2008, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Give us your stats.
Better gauge of things.

x2^^^^

btw, i dbol only cycle is not a good idea, nor is an oral only cycle because of hepatotoxicity (liver toxicity), and no matter how supressive you should run pct

**FuPayMe** · 10-10-2008, 11:07 PM

6' 175. Not too big, but decent size. One thing working against me is my t level is 300. Really shitty.

I just picked up some napoism. Im in no way afraid of needles. Im getting my feet wet first with these orals, with little shutdown. I had a buddy keep 12 pounds 1 month after after a 5 week dbol pct. His diet and lifting wasnt even up to par after the cycle.

Im consistent with my regime. Im curious if i can prove the "dbol only cycles are worthless" saying wrong like my bro did.

I would definitely run pct. Id even run pct for a var only cycle. I thought about getting some var since its not suppressive but i need to bulk.

**Phate** · 10-10-2008, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by FuPayMe

6' 175. Not too big, but decent size. One thing working against me is my t level is 300. Really shitty.

I just picked up some napoism. Im in no way afraid of needles. Im getting my feet wet first with these orals, with little shutdown. I had a buddy keep 12 pounds 1 month after after a 5 week dbol pct. His diet and lifting wasnt even up to par after the cycle.

Im consistent with my regime. Im curious if i can prove the "dbol only cycles are worthless" saying wrong like my bro did.

I would definitely run pct. Id even run pct for a var only cycle. I thought about getting some var since its not suppressive but i need to bulk.

dbol cycles aren't worthless, they are just not a smart idea, you are putting a huge strain on your body for minimal gain, and i doubt he gained 12 pounds of solid muscle from it, i would bet some was water, some fat and probably around 2-3lbs of muscle, it's not how much you keep after pct, lets see how much he keeps a couple months down the line

btw, i bet you would benefit from a change in diet as your stats aren't up to par to start using AAS yet

i would wait till you gain another 15-20lbs, which is easily possible at your height

**stpete** · 10-10-2008, 11:18 PM

^^^^^^ yea.

**FuPayMe** · 10-10-2008, 11:23 PM

how does being tall make it easier to gain weight? Im not calling you out, i always thought it was easier for shorter people to gain faster

**Bjohnson** · 10-10-2008, 11:32 PM

Ive never been short so i can't comment on that. Im pushing 6'4" and i can put on massive weight very easily if i try. Call me a liar if you want, its irrelevent but i put on 33lbs in 8 weeks doing a dirty bulk on 60mg of tbol. 400g protein, 5000+ calories, very heavy lifting. My waist went up i inch. I kept over 20 3 months after pct. Thing is 20lbs doesn't look as much on 6'4" as in does on 5'7"

sorry, way off topic

**Phate** · 10-10-2008, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by FuPayMe

how does being tall make it easier to gain weight? Im not calling you out, i always thought it was easier for shorter people to gain faster

taller people have the potential to carry more weight as they have a bigger frame to put it on, how many 5'4 200lb guys do you know, not many cause there body doesn't have the ability to put on that much weight, but 6'1 200lb guys are much more common

smaller guys can't put on weight faster, though they look like they can because since they are smaller in stature every added lb is noticed where if you were 6'1 a lb of muscle would be distributed over a much greater area and wouldn't be as noticed

btw, you or anyone else for that matter can call me out all you like, i love a good debate as long as it is an educational one where people can learn from it

**FuPayMe** · 10-11-2008, 08:36 PM

im not calling you out bro. Im still curious what the ratio is of suppressiveness of dbol compared to Test. It makes sense a 4 week cycle would be very easy to recover from faster than a 10-12 week cycle of injects. I know its easy for me to gain weight, i put on weight fast when i started lifting and taking 5000 cals with 3 muscle juice shakes a day. Muscle juice is probably one of my top 3 fave natural supplements. 1100 cals with 70 grams of protein a serving.

**MercyDog** · 10-11-2008, 08:48 PM

different doses, people, and pct make it vary. Although I don't have bloodwork to back it up, I believe I can recover, mostly that is, @50mgs./day

**MercyDog** · 10-11-2008, 08:50 PM

For test go to the hrt forum where people get shots/bloodwork, but they will vary too

**FuPayMe** · 10-11-2008, 08:52 PM

over 6 months of aas research, i cant believe i never looked into tbol. I think i might put this dbol aside and pick up some tbol. Slower moderate gains are worth less shutdown.