mass cycle A verses cycle B

[J431S]

what do u guys think of these to mass cycles and which would u recommend to pursue:

cycle A made of>

Test E (12wks)
Dbol & winstrol (5wks)
clomid/nolva (pct)

cycle B consist of:

Test E (12wks)
Anadrol (oxy)
nolva (pct)

your comments and crtiique?

[WARMachine]

cycle A made of>

Test E (12wks)
Dbol & winstrol (5wks) (Dont run both of these at the same time.)
clomid/nolva (pct)

cycle B consist of:

Test E (12wks)
Anadrol (oxy) (Have you ever used Drol or Dbol before?)
nolva (pct) (This is not enough for a PCT. At the very least you need some Clomid.)

Lets see some stats before we recommend something.

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[stpete]

^^^^ yea.

[MercyDog]

B, all day long, but don't do drugs

[J431S]

Lets see some stats before we recommend something.

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

there u go: http://forums.steroid.com/member.php?u=85702
clicked on about me

[WARMachine]

Ok sounds like you are in check...

Well if you want some serious pump, then go for the Drol.

If you really want to take it up, considering this is your fourth cycle now, throw in some Tren E or Deca again.

Test E 250mgs 2xW for Weeks 1-14
Tren E 250mgs 2xW for Weeks 1-12
Anadrol 40-50mgs ED for Weeks 1-4

PCT

Thats what i would do, or sub the Tren for Deca. You will put on some serious mass with a cycle like that. Given your diet and training are up to par, which if your stats are correct, they are.

[T_Own]

2nd one. dbol + winny? thats like drinking 3 gallons of water, but then taking a diuretic. trying to bulk and cut or what is the idea there?

[J431S]

thanks war4.
will go for drol combo but not the deca or tren . not for now though.

T-own: thanks for the wise words.

[WARMachine]

To eachs own, what were you thinking for PCT?

[Mulciber]

yeah going by the 2 posted id go with B with the clomid/nolvadex pct like in A..
what doses you considering with the clomid/nolvadex

[J431S]

I got 40tabs (20mg each) of nolva coming and 36 tabs of clomid at 100mg each. I'm not sure if the nolva is enoough but the 3 wk supply of clomid is definitely the right regiment.
last time i used letro, it drained the shit out of me!!!

[WARMachine]

Letro is a horrible choice for PCT due to the estrogen rebound effect it has.


And Clomid should be used is doses under 100mgs. Any higher than that will almost certainly cause side effects.

[J431S]

agreed...what about nolva??? do u think 40tabs is enough?

[WARMachine]

Yes...

Id do a PCT for that cycle like this...

Nolva - 20/20/20/20
Clomid - 50/50/25/25

Thats mgs ED, for 4 weeks.