I took my first shot of ugl deca and test e in my

[cashcat]

right cheek on thursady night, its now saturday and it hurts still very bad and its almost like a lump in there is that normal? its very hard to sit.

[MuscleScience]

Yep its normal, just heat it up and take some NSAIDS...

[Flex-Appeal]

nsaids at the lowest possible dose if you must, they are terrible on your liver. i won't take them myself

[JiGGaMaN]

nsaids at the lowest possible dose if you must, they are terrible on your liver. i won't take them myself

this is good advice for the wrong reason. its not bad on your liver at all, but NSAIDS are shown to have some inhibitory effect on muscle growth.

[Flex-Appeal]

this is good advice for the wrong reason. its not bad on your liver at all, but NSAIDS are shown to have some inhibitory effect on muscle growth.

hmmm let me find a thread from dukkit...im sure you may of read it. He stated it, thats why i said it...

[Flex-Appeal]

ok...i can't find it but i read it a couple days ago. He isn't on now but i'll PM him or ask him yourself. Im brain dead on what he even wrote the thread about...figured you read it though

[MuscleScience]

this is good advice for the wrong reason. its not bad on your liver at all, but NSAIDS are shown to have some inhibitory effect on muscle growth.

Chronically,

[kloan]

So you're saying if I were to take some Advil because I have a nasty headache or ache from a shot, it's going to inhibit muscle growth?

[MuscleScience]

So you're saying if I were to take some Advil because I have a nasty headache or ache from a shot, it's going to inhibit muscle growth?

No, there are studies that show that nsaids can either hurt or hinder. But no studies have shown that acute use of nsaids will significantly impair muscle growth and development.

This is a very up in the air topic right now in the literature.

[Flex-Appeal]

Also another piece of info for you: NSAIDS are COMMONLY known to cause stomach bleeding for people on Steroids .
Figured that one out when i started pissing blood and read the warnings.

[JiGGaMaN]

Also another piece of info for you: NSAIDS are COMMONLY known to cause stomach bleeding for people on Steroids .
Figured that one out when i started pissing blood and read the warnings.

provide proof of this please. No, i dont mean send me a bloody urine sample. lol

[kloan]

Also another piece of info for you: NSAIDS are COMMONLY known to cause stomach bleeding for people on Steroids .
Figured that one out when i started pissing blood and read the warnings.

wtf.. wouldn't want that happenin to me... f*** no.

hmm.. k... note to self... deal with the pain.....

[rhino1]

TAKE tylenol.....its not an NSAID

[rhino1]

Also another piece of info for you: NSAIDS are COMMONLY known to cause stomach bleeding for people on Steroids .
Figured that one out when i started pissing blood and read the warnings.

You dont have to be on steroids for them to cause stomach ulcerations and gi bleeding...

But acute nsaid use will NOT cause this....

It does inhibit muscle regeneration post workout

[rhino1]

Even better....Take OXYCONTIN....just opioid in that...

But that causes addiction...

[cashcat]

yeah i think ill deal with the pain, thanks guys for helping me take a load off my mind ill have my girl massage me up....

[rhino1]

Take tylenol, have your GF massage the area...and see if she will help you create a natural pain relief response

[TranscriptionFactor]

NSAIDs - can cause GI bleeding, inhibit the prostaglanding protection of your stomach lining. AAS can augment this possibility. Yes, there is some evidence of decreased anabolism but shouldnt be an issue with an occassional dose

Tylenol - in high doses or in combination with other meds (oral AAS!) can stress your liver or in overdose levels will send you into liver failure - get to a hospital quick

[rhino1]

NSAIDs - can cause GI bleeding, inhibit the prostaglanding protection of your stomach lining. AAS can augment this possibility. Yes, there is some evidence of decreased anabolism but shouldnt be an issue with an occassional dose

Tylenol - in high doses or in combination with other meds (oral AAS!) can stress your liver or in overdose levels will send you into liver failure - get to a hospital quick

you say this as if someone has contradicted you...

FYI...this liver is the MOST resilient organ in the human body....It takes enormous amounts of toxins to cause permanent damage to your liver...

In fact you could probably run max doses of DROL for a year straight and it not cause permanant damage(i dont reccomend doing this though)

[TranscriptionFactor]

you say this as if someone has contradicted you...

FYI...this liver is the MOST resilient organ in the human body....It takes enormous amounts of toxins to cause permanent damage to your liver...

I was scanning through this thread quickly and disappointed to see once again that someone had claimed NSAIDS were liver toxic.

Tylenol (Acetominophen) is the most dangerous medication in most people's bathroom cabinets. As little as 15-20 pills taken at once could send someone into liver failure which requires immediate treatment with N-Acetylcysteine, fluids and possibly hemodialysis.

Oral AAS by themselves used in the correct dosages are relatively safe.

TF
(M.D.)

[Flex-Appeal]

Can't argue with that I just read the med bottle...