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11-05-2008, 07:28 PM #1Beware of my advice
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Milk thistle and cycle effectiveness
2 questions.
1. Does milk thistle really work and how well?
2. Does use of it cut into the effectivess of gear?
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11-06-2008, 12:25 PM #2
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11-06-2008, 12:44 PM #3
from my experience and bloodwork results, no amount of milk thistle or liv protectant supplements will keep your liver enzymes in a normal range while on 17aa's steroids . I take liv 52 year round, but I expect my liver values to go high if I use 17aa's steroids. I think they may help your liver values recover faster once you stop taking orals
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11-06-2008, 12:47 PM #4
Man I would use it with anything no matter how mild it may seem. Its fairly inexpensive and that liver is kinda important and shit.... Trust me Ive done some stupid shit with juice in the past and last year when I went in to my PCP for blood work my liver enzymes and bilireubin values were awful and had to have an ultrasound of my liver.... rsults= "Borderline Hepat*****ly" or mild liver enlargement. I put most of the blame on the cavalier AS experiments I have done
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11-06-2008, 01:44 PM #5
I also take liv 52! But I'm sure I remember hearing that too much milk thistle a day can be harmful, is this true?
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11-06-2008, 02:19 PM #6Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
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11-06-2008, 02:23 PM #7
It is not going to harm you, is inexpensive and easy to find and supposed to be good for your liver when used anytime. For precuationary or PCT measures, why not?
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11-06-2008, 06:51 PM #8
unless youre abusing 17aa's for a long period of time, you will be fine. The liver is very resilient and designed to filter out toxins and can actually regenerate itself. Most of society takes stuff every day that stresses their liver: NSAIDs, lot of prescription drugs, alcohol. 6-10 weeks of a 17aa is not gonna give you jaundice or liver failure. A bigger concern is how 17aa's wreak havoc on your lipid profile. Ive seen my HDL go from 54 down to 1 in ten days when I added 50mg of winny to my cycle...thats crazy! It went back to normal when I stopped
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11-06-2008, 06:54 PM #9
dont freak him out..only a fraction of steroids are 17aa's...and i stay away from all of them....not worth it imo.
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