3rd Cycle Andropen-Equ-Prop-Winny : Advice

**Citrax** · 11-13-2008, 10:36 AM

Dear all,

my last cycle was 3 years ago. I plan to do one in the following weeks.
- My weight is 177lbs for 183cm (I just lost 11lbs after a diet).
- my goal is to gain some dry muscle and at the end "cut" everything.
- This year I want to try a short and more intense cycle than before.

What do you think about this ?

1-30 days : E3D - Andropen 275 (10ml bottle) & Boldenone 200 (10ml bottle)
31-50 days : E2D - Winstrol 50mg/1ml
E2D - Propionate 100mg/1ml
I will alternate the both.
1-50 days : ED - 1 novaldex

I will investigate more for my PCT, I think due to the fact that winny and prop don't stay a long time in the body, I will be able to start quickly after my last shot. Your advices are welcome.

Say me what does it wrong and good for you ?

thanks

**chuckt12345** · 11-13-2008, 10:53 AM

id start with an eraser and take that all off

**Citrax** · 11-13-2008, 01:15 PM

Why are you so direct ? I can imagine that winny-prop is maybe not the best (why?) But for the rest, where's the problem ? My last cycle was andropen -bolde E3D (0,5ml of each) + winny ED (0,25ml) after 4 weeks and it was really a great cycle.

So, let me know...

**Citrax** · 11-13-2008, 01:21 PM

I suppose is too short... It will be better if I plan to do a 8 or 10 weeks cycle.

**redz** · 11-13-2008, 01:22 PM

1-Dont take nolva on cycle
2- Whats your pct?
3-Boldenone needs to be run for 15 weeks for full benifits 7 will do nothing
4-Andropen has long esters in it that take 4-6 weeks to kick in so its a waste too for only 7 weeks
5-Your cycle sucks

**chuckt12345** · 11-13-2008, 01:24 PM

i was meanin rewrite it because its hard to read what your taking and when ,,but it def needs to be longer

its just to short to be effective

**Citrax** · 11-13-2008, 04:19 PM

Thanks, I will review my next cycle and won't take this, for sure.

**Citrax** · 11-17-2008, 08:37 AM

Hi all again,

I did some research to refresh my little knowledges. So, I've changed my cycle plan, see below. Please give me your advices, critics,... (in which domain I need to do more research).

Some remarks:
- I added Dbol to kickstart my cycle as Andopen takes some weeks to act.
- I don't take deca till the end to be able to take my winny at the same time with a testo (here andropen ).
- I change Boldenone to deca due to the fact that deca is optimize for bulking while Bolde for vascularity and pump.
- HCG is added at the end of the cycle to limit the balls atrophy problem, and the HCG qty during PCT.
- I took Arimidex and Nova to have a SERM and AI.

I followed a lot of principle which I read but sometimes some people say "white" and the other "black". So, it's possible that I did some mistakes or sometimes it's incomplete. So, don't hesitate...

Cycle :
week 1-4 : ED - dbol 50mg
week 1-13 : E3D - Andropen 275mg
week 1-10 : 2/w - Deca 250mg
week 10-13 : EOD - Winny 5Omg
week 9-13 : EW - HCG 1000Ui

PCT :
week 13-16 : EOD - HCG 1000Ui
week 16-19 : 150mg/w1, 100mg/w2, 50mg/w3 - Clomid
week 13-16 : ED 20mg novaldex

Global :
Week 1-15 : ED 25mg - Aromasin or arimidex

Please put me in the good way...