Gaining as much info for new year cycle

**Rugbyboy8** · 12-05-2008, 01:27 PM

Right managed to switch my brain in gear and take on the advice of everyone on here to cut my bf before starting my cycle

Now cutting and dropped from 240 to 233lbs - was 19% bf will get it measured start of Jan - hope to be down to at least 14% - 26 years old, 6 foot 4in.

i want to run a 12 week test e cycle of 500mgs a week and kick start this with 25mgs dianabol ed for the first 4 weeks.

Along with this i wanted to run an AI i think as i have come down from a high bf and as i'm going to be bulking i might end up bloating up a bit so would be more prone to Estrogen side effects so though if i ran one through the cycle it would be better safe than sorry - what should i take - arimidex ?

PCT - still researching this but was thinking:

1 - 4 clomid 50mg
1- 4 nolva 20mg

start pct 2 weeks after last test e injection???

does this look about right for me to carry on my research on everything? just a nudge in the right direction will be good lol

**Mulciber** · 12-05-2008, 01:32 PM

yeah adex is a good choice imo..
yes pct 2 weeks after enanthate .

**chuckt12345** · 12-05-2008, 01:32 PM

yes looks right,, yes pct 2 weeks after last shot of e.
you can run the arimidex at .25 ed during cycle
and im assuming it will be 25 mg dbol

**Big** · 12-05-2008, 01:32 PM

.25mg dbol ?

**Rugbyboy8** · 12-05-2008, 01:34 PM

yep just edited to put dianabol on there - anything else i should be researching???
also read a few things that the sides for the first 4 weeks on dbol are going to be a bit rough? liver pains etc....???

**T_Own** · 12-05-2008, 01:35 PM

also, going from 240 to 233 assuming all you lost was pure fat, you would drop a little less than 3%bf which is still a little higher than you would want before a cycle

**chuckt12345** · 12-05-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rugbyboy8

yep just edited to put dianabol on there - anything else i should be researching???
also read a few things that the sides for the first 4 weeks on dbol are going to be a bit rough? liver pains etc....???

you put .25mg instead of 25mg

if your worried,, take some liver aid and drink lots of water

6'4" 230,, you ll be a fkn beast when your done ifyou diet and train correct.

**Rugbyboy8** · 12-05-2008, 01:51 PM

yeah i know it's still too high bf wise and i'm contiuing to cut through dec and new year and looking to start cycle for 19th of jan at the latest so i'm all done and pct done by the time i go on holiday!!!!!

edited to 25mg now

Dbol results should be noticable a little in the first couple of weeks correct?

also at the moment i am training

Mon - shoulders and legs
Tues - back and biceps
Thurs - chest and triceps

when i'm on the cycle i am thinking of switching to

Mon - push and legs
Tues - pull
Thurs - Push
Fri - Pull

so i am hitting everything twice a week as i recover pretty quick anyway and the gear will aid my rcovery times as well correct???

Could you advise a good routine or a good research source to build my own from?

Cheers Chuck, hopefully i'll be able to slab on some real size as i'm pretty big now but want to be - oh shit look at the guy big haha! - is a realistic goal to put on 30lbs and keep 15 - 20 of it on that cycle as a newbie with a clean spot on bulk and balls to the wall routine?