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    is prop + npp a good stack?

    hi...

    i am considering to use npp as heard good things about it.
    i made 3 cycle in the past but im off from roids for more than a years.

    so, what do you think about this:

    1-8 prop 100mg eod
    1-8 npp 75-100 mg eod
    (i know i should inj. ed, but too much for me).

    i also have some anapolon left, what about adding 50-75mg ed for the
    first 3-4 weeks?

    i will use nolva (or letro?) during cycle and nolva/clomid for pct...


    let me know your opinion...
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    If you cannot handle ED injections, switch to Deca Durb and Test E or C.

    Also, never take Nolva with a 19-Nor. Keep Letro on hand, and if youre gyno prone, use adex from the beginning.

    Add an AI to the PCT and youre set.

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    exactly. prop and npp is a great stack but requires ed injections. prop is a fast acting test ester and npp is a faster acting deca so like stated above, if you cant handle the injections just run test enth and deca for 12 weeks instead of prop/npp for 8
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    thanks for your replies...

    well, ive planned an 8 weeks cycle because i will go away in mid feb and that is why i decided for fast acting stuff.
    also, another reason, im afraid about water retention...

    a lot of people report good results with eod inj,but i dont wanna waste my money....

    what do you think?

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    You can go eod but ed is advisable, you keep more stable levels and possible avoid sides from hormone fluctuations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry View Post
    thanks for your replies...

    well, ive planned an 8 weeks cycle because i will go away in mid feb and that is why i decided for fast acting stuff.
    also, another reason, im afraid about water retention...

    a lot of people report good results with eod inj,but i dont wanna waste my money....

    what do you think?
    I have done that stack and got great results but you need to shot ED. There will be little if any bloat, that is the beauty of that stack. You dont need the anapolon either.

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    I have used this cycle several times and I always go EOD. Very good results with minimal bloat. Try it you will be fine EOD.

    Also skip nolva clomid during and do it 2-3 weeks after last inject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glover View Post
    I have used this cycle several times and I always go EOD. Very good results with minimal bloat. Try it you will be fine EOD.

    Also skip nolva clomid during and do it 2-3 weeks after last inject.
    With these being short esters shouldn't PCT start about 3 days after last injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry View Post
    hi...

    i am considering to use npp as heard good things about it.
    i made 3 cycle in the past but im off from roids for more than a years.

    so, what do you think about this:

    1-8 prop 100mg eod
    1-8 npp 75-100 mg eod
    (i know i should inj. ed, but too much for me).

    i also have some anapolon left, what about adding 50-75mg ed for the
    first 3-4 weeks?

    i will use nolva (or letro?) during cycle and nolva/clomid for pct...


    let me know your opinion...
    cycle looks fine, but like everyone else as said go with ED shots
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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    With these being short esters shouldn't PCT start about 3 days after last injection?

    Yes, pct should be started about 3 days after last injection....I always start mine the same day as my last injection.....That way, i am already in the process of taking it, and will not forget...Plus, i figure how could 3 days early hurt....

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    thanks very much for your reply....

    i will go for
    1-8 test prop 500mg week
    1-8 npp 400mg week
    (and i will try with ed inj)
    1-8 letro (but i can only get femara 2.5 mg: is half pill eod too much? i tried
    to cut them into 4 pieces but most of the time i "destroied" the pills)
    3 days after last shot, pct with nolva/clomid combo

    i have that anapolon for too much time what about 50mg ed for the first 4 weeks?

    i want to use it and forget about it!

    thanks for all your suggestions!

    fab

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    IMHO this would be the best fast acting stack. currently running it myself 2nd week in now have hit prop and deca before and after much advice and alot of reading switched to npp never looked back. second time on this stack first time gained alot of lean muscle. best to do a shot ed and get rid of the anapolon. no point taking fast acting tabs with fast acting gear cos the sides boost dramatically and the water increases heaps to. whack away my friend. welcome to the sickness (ppl that have taken prop will understand)

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    IMO the best short ester stack is Prop/Tren /mast..........tren makes deca /npp look like childs play...

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    ok... thanks for all your answers.

    i will leave anapolon out and go with the 2 injectables and maybe some proviron ..

    thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw428 View Post
    IMO the best short ester stack is Prop/Tren/mast..........tren makes deca/npp look like childs play...
    How about prop/npp/tren . I started with prop 700 wk/npp 525 wk, run for 8 weeks and now will cut npp dose in half and replace with tren. My growth has slowed somewhat at 8 weeks, but in the past, adding tren starts new growth.

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