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    Unhappy Winstrol Cycle Bailout? Noob needs one wif an arse kick...

    Frikkin long story short, i came here AFTER i started on a Pyramid-Stanazolol-Only-Cycle exactly 21 days (December 4th) ago. Stupidest shyt i've ever done in years (including the fat chick). The dosages i'll list out at the end. I've always wanted to remain a natural and have never done a cycle before (obv), and probably never will. I won't get into WHY i got into this one (flame-magnet) unless its uber-important. I want to know how and how soon I can get off this cycle and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how I can minimize the sides. I dont effin care what the gains are, i want this shyt out of me.

    Friggin long post.

    I knew i couldn't've just stopped it (the cycle) bang. I'm taking Liv52 tabs 2x3 ED after meals.

    Heres the Train Wreck:

    Days 1-4: 1 Tab Daily
    Days 5-11: 1+1 Tab Daily
    Days 12-18: 2+2 Tab Daily
    Days 19-25: 3+3 Tab Daily
    Days 26-32: 4+4 Tab Daily
    Days 33-39: 4+4 Tab Daily
    Days 40-46: 3+3 Tab Daily
    Days 47-53: 2+2 Tab Daily
    Days 54-60: 1+1 Tab Daily

    Followed by Clomid PCT.

    This should add upto... hmmm... 8 and a half weeks of winstrol in my body.




    #1: Why haven't I come across this kind of routine anywhere else, the pyramid kind?
    #2: The TAB= 2mg Stanozolol Tablet ( i swear i'll kiss you if you say its only going to be placebo)
    #3: This (8+ weeks), I infer from my lurking, is far too long for a winny cycle (?)
    #4: Yes, i did READ that Winstrol alone isn't blah blah. I want to get off asap.

    oh yea, about me.
    I'm 21 yrs, 7 months old, been working out since i was 14ish. Have been religious about it since i was 17. Started to eat/sleep/workout properly/work my life around it since i was 19. Like I said, this is my first and last cycle (more on that in the rants section some other time).

    so if the guys could help me out, i'd kiss your.... rings.
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    the tablets are only 2mg each? so at your max you're only taking 16mg a day? that little seems useless..

    why the sudden change of heart with this? are you getting bad sides or just realize it isn't a good cycle?

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    Height?
    Weight?
    Body fat%?

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    Speechless, where are these guys coming from, RESEARCH is a good word.

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    At 2mg a piece I doubt it is nothing more than a placebo effect if that. And "NO" I dont want the kiss you promised for saying that.

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    2mg per tab? Would that even suppress someone?

    Just curious, where did you come up with this cycle plan? My guess would be some guy at the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Speechless, where are these guys coming from, RESEARCH is a good word.
    The guy admitted it was the stupidist thing he ever did, did not see the need to pile on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    The guy admitted it was the stupidist thing he ever did, did not see the need to pile on.
    Didn't you! I did

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    Everyones missing the point in this thread. All the guy wants to do is get of this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Everyones missing the point in this thread. All the guy wants to do is get of this cycle.
    yes, thats why i asked him why. i really don't think 2mg tabs (even 16mg days) will do anything. suppressive, or gains

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    At that amount, can't he just bail out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Everyones missing the point in this thread. All the guy wants to do is get of this cycle.
    to be honest I'm missing the point of his question, he says he has his pct, he says he wants to stop, so..... do we all need to say "stop and do your pct"?
    some of these threads lately just lose me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    yes, thats why i asked him why. i really don't think 2mg tabs (even 16mg days) will do anything. suppressive, or gains
    Sorry T-Own wasnt talking about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    to be honest I'm missing the point of his question, he says he has his pct, he says he wants to stop, so..... do we all need to say "stop and do your pct"?
    some of these threads lately just lose me.
    I hear you Big...... DUDE STOP! START PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    DUDE STOP! START PCT
    I second this, all in favor?

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    I will never feel stupid about asking a question again

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    Quote Originally Posted by big View Post
    i second this, all in favor?
    yes.........................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    the tablets are only 2mg each? so at your max you're only taking 16mg a day? that little seems useless..

    why the sudden change of heart with this? are you getting bad sides or just realize it isn't a good cycle?
    The RESEARCH, no sides (yet). I wouldn't know if this is a good cycle or a bad one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Height?
    Weight?
    Body fat%?
    Sorry about this.
    Height= 5'10"
    Weight=70 kilos= ~155 lbs
    Fat %= gee.... i can see the six packs...

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Speechless, where are these guys coming from, RESEARCH is a good word.
    Yes, it is. Thanks for your opinion, it changed my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    At 2mg a piece I doubt it is nothing more than a placebo effect if that. And "NO" I dont want the kiss you promised for saying that.
    MEH

    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    2mg per tab? Would that even suppress someone?

    Just curious, where did you come up with this cycle plan? My guess would be some guy at the gym.
    Yes, that guy was also instrumental in getting where i am today, so i had no reason to NOT trust him. Could we reserve this banter to shyt section please?

    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    The guy admitted it was the stupidist thing he ever did, did not see the need to pile on.
    x2!

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Didn't you! I did
    Well Done, yo mama so proud.


    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Everyones missing the point in this thread. All the guy wants to do is get of this cycle.
    OH BROTHER!

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    Do they even MAKE 2mg winny's? The smallest I have seen is 10 mg. You would have to eat like 20+ a day or more

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGallin View Post
    I will never feel stupid about asking a question again
    and Now I can die in peace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by othergod View Post
    The RESEARCH, no sides (yet). I wouldn't know if this is a good cycle or a bad one.


    Sorry about this.
    Height= 5'10"
    Weight=70 kilos= ~155 lbs
    Fat %= gee.... i can see the six packs...



    Yes, that guy was also instrumental in getting where i am today, so i had no reason to NOT trust him. Could we reserve this banter to shyt section please?


    Brother, with those stats, you need to find someone else to trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    Brother, with those stats, you need to find someone else to trust.
    I was 62kilos before i started trusting him. and flabbier.
    6 months and 10 kilos later i found myself infected with typhoid.
    Started again and gained again and got another infection (again). Gained all this (63.5 kilos to 70 now) in a little over 7 weeks under his tutelage.

    Do you have anymore flaming to do?
    Or do you seriously know something of value?
    Or have you said it already and I missed it?
    coz i'm about to start your shyt on your arse. Is your butt flame-retardant?

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    How old is this guy. I am suprised that no one has said "You need to get much bigger naturally before ever considering steriods . You should reach your natural potential before beginning any cycle".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGallin View Post
    How old is this guy. I am suprised that no one has said "You need to get much bigger naturally before ever considering steriods. You should reach your natural potential before beginning any cycle".
    well its a little late for that when he's "under someones tutelage"

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    well its a little late for that when he's "under someones tutelage"
    LOL is that really a word

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    Wow it really is a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    well its a little late for that when he's "under someones tutelage"
    Did the two of you READ the OP? Or maybe i should discuss the economy here?
    man i want to flame you both...
    (i won't. You guys can keep at it though.)

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    haha yes it is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by othergod View Post
    Did the two of you READ the OP? Or maybe i should discuss the economy here?
    man i want to flame you both...
    (i won't. You guys can keep at it though.)
    did you read the first reply here? it was after you refused to answer any of my questions that i stopped caring. actually i never did.

    flame away, i'm not sure what you'll use since i haven't made any posts like this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by othergod View Post
    I was 62kilos before i started trusting him. and flabbier.
    6 months and 10 kilos later i found myself infected with typhoid.
    Started again and gained again and got another infection (again). Gained all this (63.5 kilos to 70 now) in a little over 7 weeks under his tutelage.

    Do you have anymore flaming to do?
    Or do you seriously know something of value?
    Or have you said it already and I missed it?
    coz i'm about to start your shyt on your arse. Is your butt flame-retardant?
    I apoligize bro. Im not trying to flame, but tell it like I see it. You're right in that I do not know your history. But he did give you bad advice from where I sit and I'll leave it at that. Best of luck in continuing your quest.

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    enough with the a$$ kicking guys get on with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    did you read the first reply here? it was after you refused to answer any of my questions that i stopped caring. actually i never did.

    flame away, i'm not sure what you'll use since i haven't made any posts like this..
    I actually did.... know what? nevermind... you say "pretty useless" in your first post and then act like you're here to help. Appreciate the effort anyways.

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    ok, before I close this thread, op your question has been answered. anything else?

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    ok, plain and simple, if the tablets are really only 2mg each, and you're only in the 3rd week, i think if you just stop now you'll be fine, with no sides, no problems with hpta

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    Smile nop nothing else

    THANKS ALOT !
    but tell me about the pyramid thing or gimme a keyword to search....

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    Were not here to kick your ass. Its like when a dad is hard on his son so he realizes his mistakes. 50mg is the typical Minimum dose per day. I have heard of people taking 25 mg ed but any less is in fact "USELESS".
    Dont worry we all get our but kicked in the beginning.

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    Awright!
    Do i need to worry about sides? lke liver damage? get it tested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by othergod View Post
    THANKS ALOT !
    but tell me about the pyramid thing or gimme a keyword to search....
    Dont pyramid. Alot of noobs ask if they should taper up or down and the answer is always.....NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by othergod View Post
    Awright!
    Do i need to worry about sides? lke liver damage? get it tested?
    No worries. What you did was not a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggallin View Post
    were not here to kick your ass. Its like when a dad is hard on his son so he realizes his mistakes. 50mg is the typical minimum dose per day. I have heard of people taking 25 mg ed but any less is in fact "useless".
    Dont worry we all get our but kicked in the beginning.
    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    dont pyramid. Alot of noobs ask if they should taper up or down and the answer is always.....no.
    damn!

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