couple options for next cycle... help me out

**blown93302** · 12-29-2008, 02:53 PM

hey guys, going to start my next cycle in about a week and have a few options i can do... all gear is on hand already. here are a few options i have come up with. i am 27 230lbs 15%bf done a handful of cycles... let me know what you think, i am looking to put on maybe 10lbs while keeping bf where its at or lowering it just a bit. thanks

cycle 1
weeks 1-15 1000mg test E
weeks 1-15 400 mg deca
weeks 7-15 50mg/day winny
PCT after

cycle 2
weeks 1-15 700mg prop
weeks 7-15 50mg/day winny
(can also add the deca to this cycle)

or if you have any other suggestions please let me know. thanks

**Jfew44** · 12-29-2008, 02:57 PM

Whats your cycle experience? Have you used deca before and how much test did you run? Also, I would work on lowering that bf% a little before hopping on this cycle

**chuckt12345** · 12-29-2008, 02:57 PM

a little long with the winny on both. first one needs some tweakin,, thats a low deca to test ratio. stop deca wk 14 and winny from wk 12-17

**Matt** · 12-29-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jfew44

Whats your cycle experience? Have you used deca before and how much test did you run? Also, I would work on lowering that bf% a little before hopping on this cycle

All of what he said ^^^^

**boxer1** · 12-29-2008, 03:07 PM

i personally i would run cycle 2 but run it like this
1-15 prop 100mg/day
1-15 npp 100mg/day
7-15 winny 50mg/day
if you run the prop and want to use nandrolone your better off using npp as its also fast acting and you can shoot it ed with the prop, good luck which ever way you go.

**blown93302** · 12-29-2008, 04:44 PM

i could also lower the test to 750 a week for 15 weeks and raise the deca to 500 for 10 weeks.... have used deca years ago at 400/week, never been over 750 for the test. thanks

**Bossman** · 12-29-2008, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by blown93302

i could also lower the test to 750 a week for 15 weeks and raise the deca to 500 for 10 weeks.... have used deca years ago at 400/week, never been over 750 for the test. thanks

That sounds more reasonable. Is the winny injectable or oral? If inject, ok to run like you planned.

**Jfew44** · 12-29-2008, 05:49 PM

Well without knowing your cycle history (you haven't told us yet) I would run the test at the most you have (750?) for 15 weeks and a little more deca than you have (500?) for 13 weeks. What is your planned PCT? And full cycle history would help

**blown93302** · 12-30-2008, 10:30 AM

somebody suggested this on another board... lmk what you guys think of it...

weeks 1-10 750mg test e
weeks 1-10 500mg deca
weeks 11-20 100mg prop/day
weeks 13-20 50mg winny/day
PCT weeks 20-26

Winnny is tabs. i am not going through my entire cycle history, i have done around 8 of them nothing with test higher than 750 and have not taken deca since the 2nd cycle about 3 years ago. thanks

**chuckt12345** · 12-30-2008, 10:47 AM

If you just want 10 lbs why so much and long?

You want a hard lean 10-15 pounds just run the prop about 10 wks and then throw in the winny for the last 6 weeks.

**Bossman** · 12-30-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

If you just want 10 lbs why so much and long?

You want a hard lean 10-15 pounds just run the prop about 10 wks and then throw in the winny for the last 6 weeks.

That is quite the cycle for 10 lbs. Just change your goal to 20+ lbs and you're good to go.

**Jfew44** · 12-30-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by blown93302

somebody suggested this on another board... lmk what you guys think of it...

weeks 1-10 750mg test e
weeks 1-10 500mg deca
weeks 11-20 100mg prop/day
weeks 13-20 50mg winny/day
PCT weeks 20-26

Winnny is tabs. i am not going through my entire cycle history, i have done around 8 of them nothing with test higher than 750 and have not taken deca since the 2nd cycle about 3 years ago. thanks

My bad bro, for some reason I was thinking this was one of your first, must have been someone else. That cycle looks good to go, what pct are you planning for it?

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-30-2008, 12:09 PM

damn i feel like im contradciting everything this am but id run deca at 400 longer ..i really like the deca/winny stack along with test but hey that(above) will work. Long cycle for gains u are looking to acheive ...but it will work.
Or even better imo like jfew said this: I would run the test at the most you have (750?) for 15 weeks and a little more deca than you have (500?) for 13 weeks. throwing in winny on the back end(9-16) or up to pct (if u use test e)....

**blown93302** · 12-30-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

damn i feel like im contradciting everything this am but id run deca at 400 longer ..i really like the deca/winny stack along with test but hey that(above) will work. Long cycle for gains u are looking to acheive ...but it will work.
Or even better imo like jfew said this: I would run the test at the most you have (750?) for 15 weeks and a little more deca than you have (500?) for 13 weeks. throwing in winny on the back end(9-16) or up to pct (if u use test e)....

i have a shit ton of test... i could run it at 1000mg for 15 weeks and get one more bottle of deca and run that at 500mg for 15 weeks also...

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-30-2008, 11:48 PM

you prob dont need test at 1000/week...thats your choice..u def wanna stop deca at least 1 week before test..... deca at 400 or 500 is good. Id run adex at .25 or .5 eod for sure with 1000test/400-500deca and even at 750test/400-500deca...but thats just me.... winny id run 9-16 or 10-17 start pct at end of week 17(begin of week 18)