Needles?

**droc152** · 01-07-2009, 01:12 AM

ok so i havnt used any steroids but was thinking about it. i have a box of 100 "monoject veterinary - luer lock syringes with needle" gauge 25 x5/8. just wondering if these were good to use. i could get different needle lengths if needed. im still researching alot before i purchase anything but just asking.

**daem** · 01-07-2009, 01:24 AM

5/8ths are very small. You won't be able to hit your glutes effectively with this length of pin.

Do a www.live.com search and you can easily find pins for very cheap online.

How old are you bro?

**peachfuzz** · 01-07-2009, 01:39 AM

I know ar-r .com carries them but im not sure whats up with the customer service at the moment.

**jimmyinkedup** · 01-07-2009, 07:51 AM

for winny in delts maybe....

***D7M*** · 01-07-2009, 08:00 AM

I agree. Too small gauge. Especially if you're new, you'll have that pin in you delt for a while with that size

**THE-ORICLE** · 01-07-2009, 08:03 AM

yeah bro i use 1 inch 23 gauge..for everything but my glutes...and 1-1/12 for my glutes for deep muscle penatration

**inky-e** · 01-07-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE

yeah bro i use 1 inch 23 gauge..for everything but my glutes...and 1-1/12 for my glutes for deep muscle penatration

http://forums.steroid.com/images/smilies/new/haha.

23g x 1`" for me... and I couldn't help but do that..I'm sure Calgarian will show up....lol

**chuckt12345** · 01-07-2009, 02:30 PM

pins are the cheapest thing in the aas world ,, my vitamin c cost more than a box of 50

**reddohc** · 01-07-2009, 03:36 PM

5/8 would work depending on how much body fat you have

**nicnitro** · 01-07-2009, 07:14 PM

5/8's works just fine for me in my quad's (I have little BF there)

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-07-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by peachfuzz

I know ar-r.com carries them but im not sure whats up with the customer service at the moment.

Got pins in 6 days during the week of christmas. So I think the problems start emerging when he is low on research chems and tons of people order them and he can't supply the order fast enough.

**droc152** · 01-07-2009, 08:10 PM

i can get different size needles at work easily. ill just use the 5/8 in the vile then switch pins and im 19 gunna be 20. not doing any yet more just researching now.

**JinNtonic** · 01-07-2009, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by inky-e

http://forums.steroid.com/images/smilies/new/haha.

23g x 1`" for me... and I couldn't help but do that..I'm sure Calgarian will show up....lol

**BloodyBillAnderson** · 01-07-2009, 09:38 PM

oil goes way to slow through 25g imo. I use 23g 1 1/2" glutes and 23g 1" in shoulders.

**hankdiesel** · 01-07-2009, 09:52 PM

25g would be next to impossible to draw with and like Bill said the oil goes so slow.

**spooledup** · 01-07-2009, 11:07 PM

I've always used 25g 1" in the quads. I thought you wanted to inject slow because fast injections were painful?

25g jab super easy too.

Are 23g more painful? Whats the disadvantge fo going bigger?

Never tried a 23g.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-07-2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

I've always used 25g 1" in the quads. I thought you wanted to inject slow because fast injections were painful?

25g jab super easy too.

Are 23g more painful? Whats the disadvantge fo going bigger?

Never tried a 23g.

23g are not painful at all, i mean its like taking a sharpen pencil and pushing it against your skin for a second with some fair force by the time you feel the pain (if you want to call it that) the needle is in.

**hankdiesel** · 01-07-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

I've always used 25g 1" in the quads. I thought you wanted to inject slow because fast injections were painful?

25g jab super easy too.

Are 23g more painful? Whats the disadvantge fo going bigger?

Never tried a 23g.

With certain oils 25g can come out too slow. When I inject SUPER slow like that I actually get more sore because it is hard to keep the needle staedy while puching the plunger that hard.

**legobricks** · 01-07-2009, 11:23 PM

wow, 25g is not too small to draw or inject. Granted it does take min. to draw in a 25g pin but on injecting you want to go slow so the oil can disperss into the muscle. and 5'8 works ok but ideally you want to inject DEEP intramuscular, ive used 1inch on every injection spot and have been fine each and every time.

**spooledup** · 01-07-2009, 11:58 PM

I've injected myself slow with 25g several hundred times, and have gotten sore only a few times from shaking (not being relaxed).

**droc152** · 01-09-2009, 08:07 PM

thanks for all ur inputs on this guys. helps quite a bit. like i said once i attempt a cycle ill just draw with the 25g and switch to inject.

**gehirin** · 01-09-2009, 09:55 PM

I've used 25g on my quads (1" needle). Once I pull the steroid into the syringe, I try and warm the syringe/oil to body temp just to make the fluid less viscous and flow faster. Yeah, just keep the needle steady. I have very little pain. Even if inject slowly. Try not to move the needle to much when injecting.
I use the 22g for the glut. Faster injection.

**nicnitro** · 01-09-2009, 10:10 PM

First: 25 is not to small - I do use a 21 to draw from, just because I want to keep it sharp. I live in the Northeast, so the other day I left my stuff in the car because I wanted to use it at work after my workout. Well at 10 degree's outside, it was thick and tough to draw up.

I simply put the vile in a hot water and let it warm up.
25 is not even a thought it goes in so easy - slow is MUCH better than just jamming it into the muscle. 25 forces you to go the right speed.